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Daryl Hall has a message for critics crying cultural appropriation
Salon ^ | May 15, 2016 | Gerard Perry

Posted on 05/15/2016 1:24:22 PM PDT by OddLane

Daryl Hall is possibly the most interesting man in music. He and John Oates form the most successful musical duo of all time, and even though, their setlists during sold out shows around the world are full of instantly recognizable hits from the 1970s and ‘80s, they are not a nostalgia act.

More than other performers in their age bracket, including The Rolling Stones and Bruce Springsteen, Daryl Hall and John Oates have constructed a coalition of baby boomers who remember where they were when “Rich Girl” or “Sara Smile” first hit the radio, and thirty and twenty-something fans who enjoy the smooth, soulful, and pop-infused style of “I Can’t Go For That” and “Out of Touch” as if those songs came out yesterday.

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To: BenLurkin
I would have guessed Simon & Garfunkel. At least, in terms of American artists.

My own personal favorite is still They Might Be Giants, but I have odd musical sensibilities.

21 posted on 05/15/2016 1:57:11 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: BenLurkin

ugh.


22 posted on 05/15/2016 1:58:52 PM PDT by Pelham (Trump/Tsoukalos 2016 - vote the great hair ticket)
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To: Fungi
Maybe it's misplaced nostalgia, but I kind of miss awful '80s music-videos.
23 posted on 05/15/2016 1:59:23 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: OddLane
Great article. Thanks for posting.

Monte Montgomery Live From Daryl's House - Sara Smile

24 posted on 05/15/2016 1:59:42 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life :o)
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To: a fool in paradise
Yeah, I watch his show occasionally-I think it's on Palladium, but it used to be on my local channel, WPIX, in the middle of the night.

It's a weird sort of variant on the old variety show.

Not the most riveting television, but occasionally he'll invite some talented musicians on, e.g. Ben Folds.

25 posted on 05/15/2016 2:01:42 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: OddLane

He can rely on the old songs money.


26 posted on 05/15/2016 2:02:02 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: DesertRhino

BTTT.


27 posted on 05/15/2016 2:03:03 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: a fool in paradise
"Still charting hits or new album sales?"

See there is an issue using the old measuring sticks. Used to be going gold meant a band MIGHT start to make some money but not necessarily "FU" money. That is why bands toured so much because there they could actually make some good cash if they got popular and sold out the big venues. Otherwise the record companies made the big bucks off of the music sales and if they snookered the song writers out of the publishing rights the band rarely made anything substantial on music sales.

Now anyone with 10K in funds (or less) can make a very professionally sounding album with a knowledgeable operator/engineer. So you can produce a good product for a very small fraction of what it cost in the era when record companies controlled the process. You can create your own publishing company and you can distribute via the internet either digitally or with physical media via Amzon etc. The problem is everyone can do it and thus your awesome CD is lost in a vast sea of every other band doing the same exact thing.

BUT, you get much more money off of any music sales you do manage. used to be if you got pennies for each unit sold you were considered very lucky. Now you can easily get over 50% of anything sold. So now you don't need to go gold to make some serious money. If you sell 10k copies of a CD that retails for 9.99 you can profit over 50% of that. And at that you won't even show up on the billboard charts likely but a two man group playing live 9 months a year on a circuit and selling 10k in album sales can make some very good money.

Now Daryl does a show called Live from Daryl's House. Which BTW used to be exactly that. He would get some guests musicians and broadcast live over the internet from his house. He started small and now it is a big endeavor that is also broadcast on MTV though now it is from his club. So yeah he is playing live all manner of material some new some old lots of it his guest's material and is making some serious scratch. So he is not a nostalgia act but more a music variety show that broadcasts via the internet.

28 posted on 05/15/2016 2:03:07 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: BenLurkin

Sam and Dave, Chad and Jeremy, Peter and Gordon.


29 posted on 05/15/2016 2:03:22 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Liberty Valance; OddLane

Great tune: “Sarah’s off on a turnaound.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUCMYbua8uM

(But Hall and Oates were not ANY kind of soul. Blue-eyed or otherwise)


30 posted on 05/15/2016 2:03:31 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

LOL.


31 posted on 05/15/2016 2:04:05 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: a fool in paradise
Still charting hits or new album sales?

Prince had become a nostalgia act to the masses. when he died, the revived sales were all for Purple Rain and the songs from that album comprised half of the entries on journalists’ “top 10 songs” list.

It doesn’t mean that you’ve stopped creating, just that the majority have stopped listening.

The corporate music world he says are idiots is one of the big reasons established artists fade away. The record labels always have a very short demographic horizon, tuned to a listener's high school years. It works well because people are nostalgic about that time of their life and will hold onto that music.

If you were in high school when Daryl Hall or Prince was popular, then by the time you graduate, the record companies need to be pushing the next big thing onto the freshmen. Since the record companies have a gigantic influence on what gets played on radio, older acts do get crowded out and fade away.

After being successful for about five years, a band is probably on their own to appeal to a new crowd, because the record label would have no interest in pushing an older artist on a high school crowd. To be honest, most artists can't last more than about five years anyway. And the large majority of artists stop being creative songwriters after about they hit 40-45 years old. If they are still around after 45, they do tend to become nostalgia acts.

So it is very impressive that Daryl Hall is doing this and is successful. He had to find a way to get his music out and did. Prince was successful well after his Purple Rain days too, under the radio radar. In the case of Prince, he didn't help himself with his fights with his record labels. That held him off the radio as much as anything. But if you look at videos from live shows during his "where are they now" years, he still had a large audience.

32 posted on 05/15/2016 2:04:06 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Wolfie

And I have a strict rule I enforce on myself. I only hijack every 3rd thread I visit.


33 posted on 05/15/2016 2:05:09 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,)
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To: OddLane

I’m right there with you.


34 posted on 05/15/2016 2:05:51 PM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: x

Calling Hall and Oates’s pop music “blue-eyed soul” is also kind of silly.

THIS is blue-eyed soul: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bld_-7gzJ-o


35 posted on 05/15/2016 2:05:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: atc23

Good times!


36 posted on 05/15/2016 2:06:14 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,)
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To: a fool in paradise

So, you read that article, and that was the most important takeaway for you. Cool.


37 posted on 05/15/2016 2:08:39 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,)
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To: OddLane

Well, this entire critique is coming back…

I’m sorry to hear it. Who is making these critiques? Who do they write for? What are their credentials to give an opinion like that? Who are they?

Much of it is academic.

Well, then they should go back to school. Academia? Now, there’s a hotbed of idiocy.
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How true.


38 posted on 05/15/2016 2:09:18 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Haha!!!


39 posted on 05/15/2016 2:10:35 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: x

Look at all the great British acts who loved black blues and incorporated it into their sound—the Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Eric Clapton. These guys didn’t just take the sound. They used their status to bring their influences into the light for a mass audience. Eric Clapton, like he is known to do, gave a stage to a lot of these guys like Freddie King, Albert King, Buddy Guy, etc. It’s obscene how this current generation now uses this kind of thing to drive a wedge where those guys were building bridges.


40 posted on 05/15/2016 2:10:55 PM PDT by Rastus (#NeverHillary)
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