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Hillary Pledges Open Borders, Levin Responds with Attack on Trump’s Tariffs
Breitbart.com ^ | 14 May 2016 | Julia Hahn

Posted on 05/14/2016 6:07:44 PM PDT by Rockitz

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To: Rockitz

Levin is quite simply insane in his hatred for the GOP nominee.
So sad.


101 posted on 05/15/2016 8:54:27 AM PDT by citizen (GOPe: The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything)
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To: Jim 0216
When America was first stating up it did need some economic protection to give industry a chance to ramp up. After than, government took a back seat and America became the most prosperous country on earth. The greatest economic power on earth needs government protectionism? How stupid.

Hello? Is anyone home? Where did you learn history from a comic book?

Let me try to educate you. The USA from 1789 to 1913 had no income taxes with the temporary exception of 1863-65 in the North. The federal government was funded entirely on tariffs an other user fees. The USA became an economic super power house under that taxation system for 125 years until the disastrous 16th amendment came along. NOW YOU KNOW.

102 posted on 05/15/2016 8:55:37 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: dowcaet

Harley Davidson is exhibit A.


103 posted on 05/15/2016 8:57:27 AM PDT by ameribbean expat (When the going gets weird, the weird go professional.)
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To: Jim 0216

Was George Washington a fascist then? Hmm? Hello?


104 posted on 05/15/2016 8:58:18 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Rockitz
Mark! President Hilliarily thanks you for your support.

Mark, your check is in the mail!

105 posted on 05/15/2016 8:58:45 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( At 1150, Donald Trump has 87 delegates to get to the needed 1,237 as of May 10, 2016, by Jeff Head)
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To: central_va

Here we go again. The lights are on but nobody’s home. Tariffs used for tax purposes to fund the government is entirely different than thinking tariffs solve economic problems caused by the government.

Contrary to your confused, mad arguments, socialism does not cause less socialism and freedom is not socialism.

Why am I talking to someone with such nutty ideas.

Bye bye, again va_central. Rots a ruck with your confusion.


106 posted on 05/15/2016 9:07:43 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Nateman
You're right, of course. But that won't stop others from continuing to prove they don't understand freer trade or that it is founded in freedom. Economic winners and losers should be determined by the buying decisions made by hundreds of millions of people, freely making billions of transactions in which both sides benefit; not by corrupt government bureaucrats who will only protect those who are politically connected or who pay to play.

We have 12,000 tariffs already in place in this country and our economy continues to suck wind. Only the blind would think that prosperity is just another tariff away. But here they are. It's interesting and elucidating that they argue for more government control of the economy, and higher taxes for all Americans, rather than reducing regulation, taxes and litigation. Smaller government would solve a lot of the problems they identify but they're too busy pleading with government to save them to realize it. They aren't even aware that we don't have a free trade agreement with China.

107 posted on 05/15/2016 10:06:52 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: FreeReign
Levin isn't #NeverTrump.

I heard him proclaim himself #nevertrump with my own ears.

I have never heard him recant that position.

108 posted on 05/15/2016 10:44:30 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: Rockitz

The line being drawn now isn’t between conservatives and liberals—it is between nationalists and globalists.

It’s clear to me that the globalists are the money men. Thus, they control both parties (via donations) and media figures like Levin (via direct payments).

Whether Levin understands that he no long fights for conservatism, but rather globalism is anyone’s guess. Heck, he might actually think conservatism and globalism are the same thing.

It’s plain as day though, that someone has payed this piper Levin to play their tune.


109 posted on 05/15/2016 11:03:47 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Hillary Clinton stood next to the coffin of an American soldier and lied to his parents' face)
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To: Nateman
Do you believe this country contracted from 1780 through to the 1910s? Think for a moment before you answer.

The country was up to 95% funded, at the entire federal level, off of tariffs.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariffs_in_United_States_history

We had no income tax for business or individuals. We made as much stuff as we could here and it employed everyone that had a job. We had no welfare, unemployment, and far less crime than we have today. Jobs do that.

Tariffs are simply a tax and all taxes are penalties. Why is it better to tax income over a penny on imports (which paid none of our taxes)?

There is nothing special about tariffs over these other taxes. It is a tool to penalize something to fund government, just like sales, income, and property tax.

Would you rather disincentivize income, sales, or things built elsewhere?

You and Levin are apparently the ones who are “economically illiterate.”

110 posted on 05/15/2016 12:03:35 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: kanawa

I stand corrected. I see on April 8th, Levin said so after Roger Stone slimed him.


111 posted on 05/15/2016 12:59:08 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Mase

I’m for a government small enough to be entirely funded from a 20% tariff.


112 posted on 05/15/2016 3:24:36 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: JBW1949
Mark Levin has become irrelevant....

I think this is what is one of the many things driving them crazy is nobody (at least signigicant decrease in numbers) cares what they (Glenn Beck, Mark Levin, Michael Medved, Ben Shapiro, and even Rush) think.

Further they backed the wrong horse and loudly. Very pointedly wrong, consistently for an extended period of time.

I think it makes them mad the FR largely was way ahead of the curve on all this.

113 posted on 05/15/2016 3:28:56 PM PDT by datricker (Its morning in America! Sorry Rush, Jim Robinson is the new mayor of Realville)
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To: datricker

You are right...I know each of them have received much criticism for their comments against who the people have chosen...I won’t ever have the view of them that I once had...


114 posted on 05/15/2016 3:56:14 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: ConservativeMind
Great. And I'd like to win Lotto.

Repealing the 16th Amendment isn't ever going to happen. That's just wishful thinking. It is important to realize, though, that the federal income tax was inflicted upon the U.S. by republicans eager to do whatever they had to do to get another tariff passed (Payne-Aldrich). It is the ignorant pursuit of tariffs that gave us the federal income tax in the first place. Something to think about as you advocate so enthusiastically for more and bigger taxes, and for greater government control of the economy.

115 posted on 05/15/2016 5:07:17 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase

All taxes are penalties. I have no problems with tariffs as a part of our penalty burden, if those taxes reduce income disincentives (income tax).

Do you?


116 posted on 05/15/2016 5:14:46 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind
I have a problem with government that refuses to live within its means and will not do so no matter how much money of ours it confiscates. I also prefer less government influence over the economy, not more.

You?

117 posted on 05/15/2016 6:08:50 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase

>I have a problem with government that refuses to live within its means and will not do so no matter how much money of ours it confiscates. I also prefer less government influence over the economy, not more.

Protectionism is one of the few state planning functions that actually work. And it works because it creates incentives for more free market innovation.


118 posted on 05/15/2016 6:15:35 PM PDT by RedWulf (End Free trade.)
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To: RedWulf
Yup. Protectionism works so well, in fact, that it gave us the federal income tax. Gee, thanks protectionists!

Instead of arguing for bigger government and higher taxes through protectionist policies, you should be demanding lower corporate taxes, the slashing of regulation especially from the EPA and OSHA, and the reigning in of plaintiff's attorneys. Then industry would flourish here and insourcing would become the trend.

Or, you could go on preaching that when it comes to trade, government instantly becomes responsible, capable and reliable, and that government bureaucrats will be able to determine which businesses deserve protection and the proper amount and type of protection to be offered. Increasing the power of the state won't result in greater cronyism like it does for everything else because, as you claim, government behaves differently when it comes to trade. Statism is good for trade. Higher prices are good for middle class families when it comes to protecting unions and politically connected industries. It's better that the middle class pay higher prices to protect the cronies than it is for them to get more bang for their dollar at the grocery store, or save for their kid's education, or plan for their retirement. Government has only our best interests in mind.

119 posted on 05/15/2016 8:50:59 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase

Protectionism worked pretty well for the first 120 years of the republic. It’s worked wonderfully for Japan, China, Germany, and Korea.

If you’re going to blindly follow the will of the free market, then you may want to consider that there are markets for murder for hire, markets for abortions, and markets for prostitution. But hey, we should probably keep the government out of those markets, right?


120 posted on 05/15/2016 9:03:37 PM PDT by RedWulf (End Free trade.)
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