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Maduro Orders Seizure of Closed Venezuela Factories, Jailing of Owners
MSN ^ | 14 May 2016

Posted on 05/14/2016 5:39:09 PM PDT by Publius

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To: Buttons12

Here is what they will say: “That’s not Socialism! The way Bernie wants to do it won’t allow those things to happen.”

THAT is what they always say. They think the other people are doing it wrong, and they can do it better.

They don’t realize their fundamental premise is fatally flawed, in much the same way someone trying to build a perpetual motion machine is so engrossed in the details of trying to make it work that they never even check their premises.


141 posted on 05/15/2016 5:16:13 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: Publius
Good morning. I hope you are doing well.

Right out of "Atlas Shrugged."

Who would have thought that Atlas Shrugged and 1984 would morph into documentaries?

5.56mm

142 posted on 05/15/2016 5:24:31 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Publius; ADemocratNoMore; Aggie Mama; alarm rider; alexander_busek; AlligatorEyes; ...
Normal people would see this happening in Venezuela, and wonder how on earth this came to pass, with all the evidence freely available, plenty of current and historic examples to learn from, etc.

Like using heroin.

"Okay folks, listen up. This is all documented throughout history by the most reliable historians, people without agendas. This is what heroin is. This is what heroin does. If you use it, you WILL get addicted to it. It WILL take over your life. It WILL ruin your life. It WILL make you more miserable than you can ever imagine. It WILL turn your entire family on you. It WILL cost you your job, your money, your reputation, your family, and eventually your life. (begins throwing Encyclopedia Brittania sized books on the table) Here is the history of heroin. Here are the fatality rates. Here are the legal and financial ramifications. Here is the thickest one...the ruined families, the devastation...and now we are going to watch movies of real heroin addicts and show what happens to them."

Most normal people would read those documents, watch the movies, and understand exactly what happens when you take heroin, and would never touch it. And when someone becomes a heroin addict, most normal people would say "How could they have done that? Everyone KNOWS what heroin will do to you, and what will happen. How could they do it?"

Yet, here we are. Socialism. This is what it should have been like:

"Okay folks, listen up. This is all documented throughout history by the most reliable historians, people without agendas. This is what socialism is. This is what socialism does. If you use it, you WILL get addicted to it. It WILL take over your life. It WILL ruin your life. It WILL make you more miserable than you can ever imagine. It WILL turn your entire family on you. It WILL cost you your job, your money, your reputation, your family, and eventually your life. (begins throwing Encyclopedia Brittania sized books on the table) Here is the history of socialism. Here are the fatality rates. Here are the legal and financial ramifications. Here is the thickest one...the ruined families, the devastation...and now we are going to watch movies of real socialist countries and show what happens to them."

Kind of fits, doesn't it?

But these aren't normal times, and these aren't normal people.

There is a large portion of the American population that have sat through the class described above (for socialism, at least) the information is available, well documented, many have seen with their own eyes (never mind a movie or documentary) how evil socialism is, yet...they don't see, understand, or simply outright deny or ignore the information, and are ready to embrace socialism.

It is stunning and scary, the fact that people could have this happening right in front of their eyes, on the news, on the Internet, sometimes even have lived through it and experienced what it does, yet long for it still.

Can anyone explain to me how Heroin is any different from Socialism? (including, of course, the heroin-like high that some people will get from a boot stamping on a human face - forever.)

143 posted on 05/15/2016 6:36:19 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: M Kehoe
"Who would have thought that Atlas Shrugged and 1984 would morph into documentaries?"

More like instructional manuals.

144 posted on 05/15/2016 6:37:27 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: rlmorel

That is a great analogy.

Well said.


145 posted on 05/15/2016 6:39:17 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Publius

The beatings will continue until morale improves.


146 posted on 05/15/2016 6:43:21 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: rlmorel
If you read Marx and Engels, and their latter-day evangelists like Trotsky, Lenin, and Gramsci, you'll understand. Yes, socialism brutalizes every culture it touches. Yes, it leaves a trail of misery and inhumanity as gross as a slug's slime. Yes, it has been an abject failure everywhere it's been tried. Yes, it mandates a totalitarian oppression that strips people of their individuality, their dignity, and often, their very lives.

But all that -- ALL that -- is not only acceptable, it is REQUIRED for the sea change that is Marxism to displace the horrible, inequitable condition that is capitalism. People will die. People will be miserable. People will see the very roots of their cultures torn out and cast aside while a tyrannical master beats, cajoles, or murders them into submission.

Then, slowly, the brighter light begins to dawn as the collectivist sun rises. All are equal, free to pursue their dreams of making mankind better and giving their all to the betterment of the Collective. Their mundane needs are met or even sacrificed, but what is giving up a few creature comforts -- like food, shelter, privacy, freedom ... -- if you've contributed to the evolution of society?

Make no mistake: the socialist/communist/globalist cabal will NEVER let history dictate its trajectory. It is determined to impose its vision on the world and drag it kicking, screaming, and bloody into its hellish paradise.

147 posted on 05/15/2016 6:49:30 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: dynachrome
Lol!

Well, somebody has to produce stuff for the populace to eat, and wear!

148 posted on 05/15/2016 6:54:33 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma deuce)
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To: rlmorel
100%! the lure of free everything clouds their minds and numbs their soul, till it's toooo late
149 posted on 05/15/2016 7:03:08 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: VeniVidiVici

That’s right; for oil-producing countries Mexico and Venezuela are dumps...


150 posted on 05/15/2016 7:09:04 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: IronJack

Nice post!

CA....


151 posted on 05/15/2016 7:09:29 AM PDT by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: rlmorel
Can anyone explain to me how Heroin is any different from Socialism?

Both seem real popular with Millennials.

Coincidence? I think not.

152 posted on 05/15/2016 7:27:03 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: IronJack

That is all so true, IronJack.

They view freedom (not tyranny) as detrimental to men. That does indeed explain everything.

There are people who look at the opposing camps of capitalism and socialism as being a Ying and a Yang, and many of these people are too willing to extend the air of an equal option to socialism, which it does not deserve, having failed miserably over and over again, while capitalism has shown over and over again that it works when allowed to function.

That extension of legitimacy to socialism is a grave mistake, one that conservatives make in so many arenas. We allow the faulty fundamental premise to stand without question, and liberals build an entire fortress of lies and deceits on top of it, and we spend our days jousting with those extensions of fundamental falsehood instead of attacking those foundations.


153 posted on 05/15/2016 7:51:01 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: Chode

And we know they aren’t being taught history, Chode, that is for sure. Without the historical underpinnings which can’t be denied, it is easy for socialists to dismiss critics as ignorant propagandists.


154 posted on 05/15/2016 8:07:58 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: IncPen

But it could NEVER happen here.


155 posted on 05/15/2016 8:12:45 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Last Dakotan

I suppose none of those who are for both socialism and heroin use have reconciled that the government will likely (though one never knows) supply free heroin, but it will still have to be purchased or obtained for something in exchange.


156 posted on 05/15/2016 8:13:08 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: mythenjoseph
Chile, White, educated.

Argentina, White, Educated.

Germany, White, Educated.

Would you like some more?

The idea that only the uneducated or dark skinned take this route is rather uneducated.

157 posted on 05/15/2016 8:13:25 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: rlmorel

That is a very good example. But the kids are not taught the truth in school about socialism. They are taught that it is wonderful and that capitalism is bad. My grandson has been taught in public school in CA since first grade that capitalism and corporations are evil.


158 posted on 05/15/2016 8:15:38 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Publius

That was the problem in the article. The issue that caused the new edict was a brewery having to shut down because they couldn’t get barley.


159 posted on 05/15/2016 8:23:39 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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To: Billthedrill

It’s like an old Italian lady told me about Rome and that old saying that it takes a dictator to make the trains run on time. The trains never ran on time under Mussolini, you just weren’t allowed to SAY that they weren’t on time.


160 posted on 05/15/2016 8:35:36 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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