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Gnats and Irrelevant Nuts – The Economically Dissonant Opposition…
The Last Refuge/Conservative Treehouse ^ | May 12, 2016 | sundance

Posted on 05/13/2016 4:55:48 AM PDT by Bratch

Beyond the larger context of Globalists VS Nationalists, the internal opposition to Common Sense economic conservatism/nationalism can be fundamentally broken down into two categories:

♦  The first group are those who are fundamentally naive about large and historic economic issues; and how the economy was changed, forced to change, through the past forty years by financial interests who created a second, “false“, paper economy.

This first group is generally young, pseudo-intellectual, and their only reference has been while formally educated within the last thirty years (they’re under 50).   Most of the oppositional (conservative) punditry falls into this category.  Important to note, this group is also joined by the majority of politicians who are approximately the same age.

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♦  The second group are those who truly know better; they are older and wiser, they know the truth because they saw it unfold.  However, they are also financially dependent on retention of a narrative that sold the change in the past 40 years.  These are the willfully blind who have sold-out to the benefit of, and enrichment from, the false economy.

This second group is intent on retaining a historic set of false assumptions by fraud and deception.  Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh, Chris Matthews and Hugh Hewitt fit into this second grouping.  Their framework echo-chambered and passed down to group #1.

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The world-view of the first group (younger voices) are fundamentally seeded on social issues.  They are in no position to speak accurately about economic matters because they don’t have a reference point underpinning their expressed outlook.  Their economic arguments are esoteric opinions, and they never experienced the era of industrial giants.

♦ In most of the modern post-war industrial era (1950-1980) banking was a boring job and only slide rule bean-counters and actuarial accountants moved into that sector of the workforce.  Most people don’t like math – these were not exciting jobs.  Inside the most boring division of a boring banking industry were the bond departments within the larger bank and finance companies.

The excitement was in the actual economy of Main Street business.  The giants of industry created businesses, built things, manufactured products, created innovation and originated internal domestic wealth in a fast-paced real economy.  Natural peaks and economic valleys, as the GDP expanded and contracted, based on internal economic factors of labor, energy, monetary policy and regulation.

Main Street generated the pool of politicians because the legislative conduct of politicians had more impact on Main Street.   The business agents had a vested interest in political determinations.  Political candidates courted industrialists, business owners, and capitalist giants to support them. Main Street USA was in control of DC outcomes.

Despite the liberal talking points to the contrary, this relationship was a natural synergy of business interests and political influence.  It just made sense that way, and the grown-ups were generally in charge of it.

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♦ Commercial banks courted businesses because bankers needed deposits. Without deposits banks could not generate loans; without loans banks could not generate profits…. and so it was.  By rule only 10 percent of a commercial bank’s income could stem from securities.

One exception to this 10% rule was that commercial banks could underwrite government-issued bonds.  Investment banks (the bond division) were entirely separate entities. The Glass-Steagall banking laws of 1932 kept it that way.

However, mid 1970’s  bank regulators began issuing Glass–Steagall interpretations -that were upheld by courts- and permitted banks and their affiliates to engage in an increasing variety and amount of securities activities.   After years of continual erosion of the Glass-Steagall firewall, eventually it disappeared.

This became the origin of the slow-motion explosion of investment banking.  If you look back historically from today toward 1980 (ish) what you will find is this is also the ultimate fork where economic globalism began overtaking economic nationalism.

Banks could now make money, much more money, from investment divisions issuing paper financial transactions, not necessarily dependent on actual physical assets.  The transactions grew exponentially.

The bond market portion ultimately led to the ’07/’08 housing collapse, and derivative trading (collateralized debt obligations or CDO’s) generated trillions of paper dollars.  Business schools in 1980 began calling this the second economy (a false economy, or the invisible economy).

The second economy, which ultimately became the global economy, is also the Wall Street investment economy.   Two divergent economies: Wall Street (paper), and Main Street (real).

There is no real property, real capital, real tangible assets in the Wall Street economy. The false economy is based on trades and financial transactions, essentially opinions.  Paper shifts, and buys and sells based on predictions and bets (derivatives).

Insurance products create an even larger subdivision within the false economy as hedgers wagered on negative outcomes.  The money wagered is exponential – some say more than a quadrillion currently floats.

♦ Now you realize, in hindsight, there had to be a point where the value of the second economy (Wall Street) passed up the first economy (Main Street).  Investments, and the bets therein, needed to expand outside of the USA. hence, globalist investing.

However, a second more consequential aspect happened simultaneously.

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The politicians became more valuable to the Wall Street team than the Main Street team, and Wall Street had deeper pockets because their economy was now larger.

As a consequence Wall Street started funding political candidates and asking for legislation that benefited their interests.

When Main Street was purchasing the legislative influence the outcomes were beneficial to Main Street, and by direct attachment those outcomes also benefited the average American inside the real economy.

When Wall Street began purchasing the legislative influence, the outcomes therein became beneficial to Wall Street.   Those benefits are detached from improving the livelihoods of main street Americans because the benefits are “global” needs.   Global financial interests, investment interests, are now the primary filter through which the DC legislative outcomes are considered.

There is a natural disconnect.

♦ When Speaker Paul Ryan says: “Donald Trump and I come from two different wings of the party”, he is specifically pointing out this disconnect, yet few draw attention to it.

Trump represents the Main Street wing, Ryan represents the Wall Street wing.

Going back to the opening paragraphs.  The news and opinion punditry never take the time to explain the root cause of the disassociation, because: A) Group one doesn’t understand it; and B) Group two is compensated to remain willfully blind (ignore) to it.

Yes, there is a fundamental ideological conflict within this 2016 election:

Wall Street/Globalists -vs- Main Street/Nationalists

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: congress; glasssteagall; mainstreet; wallstreet

1 posted on 05/13/2016 4:55:48 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: Bratch

This is a great explanation.


2 posted on 05/13/2016 5:07:59 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Melania Trump for First Lady!)
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To: BlackAdderess
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3 posted on 05/13/2016 5:10:12 AM PDT by wtd
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To: Bratch

We, the people, are measured against those who would drag us into a global Armageddon of debt and profiteering. This is a war we must win.


4 posted on 05/13/2016 5:15:41 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Stop Islam and save the world.)
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To: BlackAdderess

The latter half of the article is dead on, but the first bit tying “conservative pundits” to the destruction of Glass-Segall is not only off base, it’s very misleading.


5 posted on 05/13/2016 5:42:51 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: Bratch
“banking was a boring job and only slide rule bean-counters and actuarial accountants moved into that sector of the workforce.”

“Most people don’t like math – these were not exciting jobs.”

1. accounting is not mathematics. Yes, it adds and subtracts number and works in percentages.

2. a “slide rule” will nether add nor subtract.

3. a slide rule has nothing to do with bean counters.

4. the author of the article probably has never seen and certainly not operated a slide rule. But remember a pencil and slide rule in the hands of scientists put a man on the moon.

6 posted on 05/13/2016 5:49:32 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

-—a “slide rule” will nether add nor subtract.——

doesn’t a slide rule multiply by adding logarithms?


7 posted on 05/13/2016 5:52:31 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....Opabinia can teach us a lot)
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To: bert

Yes, but I defy you to add a string of numbers up on a slide rule.

A piece of paper and a pencil will in the right hands.

A slide rule will multiply, divide, work in powers and roots, make trig calculations. BUT will not add and subtract. An Abicus will.

I by the way have several of them. My first was a K&E Descilon I purchased when I was in high school. And I have several that were my father-in-law’s. He was an EE.


8 posted on 05/13/2016 5:59:05 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil
EE's carry their K&E Log log dectrig's clipped to their belt's.

Real engineers carry them upside down in their hip pocket


9 posted on 05/13/2016 6:03:22 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....Opabinia can teach us a lot)
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To: Bratch
This is a very good article. 'Sundance' is obviously more than the grocery clerk that the increasingly unhinged Mark Levin dismisses him as being

♦ When Speaker Paul Ryan says: “Donald Trump and I come from two different wings of the party”, he is specifically pointing out this disconnect, yet few draw attention to it.

Trump represents the Main Street wing, Ryan represents the Wall Street wing.

Going back to the opening paragraphs. The news and opinion punditry never take the time to explain the root cause of the disassociation, because: A) Group one doesn’t understand it; and B) Group two is compensated to remain willfully blind (ignore) to it.

Yes, there is a fundamental ideological conflict within this 2016 election:

Wall Street/Globalists -vs- Main Street/Nationalists

10 posted on 05/13/2016 6:10:31 AM PDT by Pelham (Trump/Tsoukalos 2016 - vote the great hair ticket)
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To: bert; Texas Fossil

NERD FIGHT!


11 posted on 05/13/2016 6:14:13 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: SecondAmendment

“but the first bit tying “conservative pundits” to the destruction of Glass-Segall is not only off base, it’s very misleading.”

Phil Gramm was certainly instrumental in pushing the passage of Gramm-Leach-Bliley 1999 and the Commodity Futures Modernization Act 2000. Dismantling Glass-Steagall was a bipartisan effort by people who ignored why it was passed in the first place.


12 posted on 05/13/2016 6:19:27 AM PDT by Pelham (Trump/Tsoukalos 2016 - vote the great hair ticket)
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To: bert

Yes, that looks like my first one. And I have the nice leather pouch with the clip. (not belt clip, but belt loop snap)

smile.

I’m not an engineer. I do have a commercial radio license and an Amateur Extra.


13 posted on 05/13/2016 6:35:25 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Bratch

smile.

Pretty harmless crowd?


14 posted on 05/13/2016 6:39:22 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: bert; Bratch

By the way, my engineer father-in-law was an EE. He worked in the weapons industry for 40 years. He was a high level manager at the plant for >15 years, and he absolutely despised “bean counters” (he knew very very well how to deal with them).


15 posted on 05/13/2016 6:49:12 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

Did you intentionally miss the point of the article?


16 posted on 05/13/2016 7:31:37 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (We need a separation of press and state!)
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To: Personal Responsibility

No, I did read the article and agree with most of it. But it was the wording of the author that provoked a headshake for his symbolism. It was his use of the expression that cooled my enthusiasm for the article.

I am sorry if it looked like I was intentionally redirecting the thread. Never intended that.


17 posted on 05/13/2016 7:37:00 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: SecondAmendment

There’s so much who struck John about that, when in fact certain elements in both parties were responsible. I thought the article did a better job than most in sort of skirting the issue. It all turns into such a mess with all kinds of finger pointing that people get so caught up in, that they forget the problem that is front and center and needs to be dealt with.


18 posted on 05/13/2016 7:43:37 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Melania Trump for First Lady!)
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To: wtd

Oh wow, that looks great, I watched the intro so far, thank you :)


19 posted on 05/13/2016 7:48:53 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Melania Trump for First Lady!)
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