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WaPo: In Japan and America, more and more people think Hiroshima bombing was wrong
Washington Post ^ | May 10, 2016 | Adam Taylor

Posted on 05/10/2016 9:34:31 AM PDT by Zakeet

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To: Steely Tom

“Asked why he had not anesthetized the prisoner before dissecting him, the farmer explained: “Vivisection should be done under normal circumstances. If we’d used anesthesia, that might have affected the body organs and blood vessels that we were examining. So we couldn’t have used anesthetic.” “

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/03/17/world/unmasking-horror-a-special-report-japan-confronting-gruesome-war-atrocity.html?pagewanted=all


81 posted on 05/10/2016 10:01:01 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Mr. Mojo
...unencumbered by the systematic brainwashing...

That is a problem we must engage. Really engage.

82 posted on 05/10/2016 10:01:07 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Mr. Mojo

We lost 50,000 taking Okinawa. Project that!


83 posted on 05/10/2016 10:01:11 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: elcid1970

Donald Trump’s uncle, Dr John Trump, worked on the Manhattan project, and was a professor at MIT. PhD on Physics.


84 posted on 05/10/2016 10:01:34 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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To: Zakeet

As WAPo and the NYTimes continue to retell the lie, people begin to believe it is true.


85 posted on 05/10/2016 10:02:27 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarme)
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To: Zakeet

They do not know history then. The US would have lost a least a million men trying to invade Japan. IF Japan was intent on surrendering they would have after the first bomb and not waited until after the second


86 posted on 05/10/2016 10:02:36 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: vette6387

NO DIFFERENT than our education system, AMERICA responsible for EVERYTHING wrong in the WORLD!!!! NEW WORLD ORDER at it’s BEST!!!! Indoctrinations of ALL YOUNG people!!! HOME SCHOOL ALL children Catholic Schools are even on board with this CRAP any more!!!!


87 posted on 05/10/2016 10:09:15 AM PDT by Kit cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Zakeet
Bull Shi!. It ended a very cruel war that Japan was beheading and killing captives. I will never forget! Japan ask what it got.

Trump for President.

88 posted on 05/10/2016 10:09:31 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Zakeet

In the 1960’s, I had conversations with Nimrods who suggested that we should have dropped a “demonstration” bomb in order to reduce loss of life. That argument failed on two counts, both demonstrating their ignorance.

First, the U.S. was very early in their nuclear program and did not have the means to mass produce bombs. Nuclear bombs were a scarce commodity. Second, and most telling, was the rejoinder that if a demonstration would have been adequate, then why did the Japanese wait until after Nagasaki to surrender?


89 posted on 05/10/2016 10:10:48 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Zakeet

The bombs saved a half million American lives from an invasion of Japan and more than a million Japanese. None of which matters to Obama.


90 posted on 05/10/2016 10:11:36 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: BigEdLB

Uncle John developed Radar. Used by our troops but also in England . He work and received award from both England and the U.S.
He took a hiatus from medical radiation work to do this important military work. He returned to medical radiation after the war. Any one having Xray and radiation can thank Uncle John for his initial work. He was NOT directly involved in the Manhattan project.
Google John Trump


91 posted on 05/10/2016 10:12:10 AM PDT by hoosiermama (W1240 (a couple extra to boot) Under budget. Ahead of schedule! Go TRUMP)
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To: Zakeet
They started the war, we ended it. Sorry about the collateral damage, but it saved a lot of American lives.

That's all I got. Yeah, it was terrible, but it saved a lot of Jap civilians from having to fight to the death. Basically, It saved Japan from total annihilation.

But the important thing, the ONLY important thing is that it saved a million or so US lives that would have been lost if we had to invade the mainland.

Hopefully, Japan has learned its' lesson about fighting wars of conquest.

92 posted on 05/10/2016 10:13:48 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: Zakeet

The only B I ever got in grad school was from a professor whose pet project was demonstrating how Hiroshima was the American equivalent of Auschwitz. I refused to go along, wrote a (I still think, 25 years later) very cogent term paper completely destroying the analogy. He couldn’t refute my arguments, and he couldn’t fail me (it was 25 years ago; today profs would do it with impunity), so he gave me a B in the course without, IIRC, grading the paper. I wear the B as a badge of honor.

P.S. I spent my teen years in Japan, love Japanese culture, spent 30 years studying Japanese tea ceremony, and my screen name means “tea person” in Japanese. If anyone should oppose the bombing, I would be the one, but I have been to Hiroshima, and to much of the rest of Japan, and the only reason it is what it is today is because we stopped WWII short of an invasion of the home islands.


93 posted on 05/10/2016 10:14:53 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Americans were much smarter back then.

Less years of formal schooling but more real learning packed into those years.

Less mush pushed into their brains by leftist agents posing as teachers.

Stronger patriotism and national pride.

Learned there are such absolutes as right and wrong, good and bad.

Knew the differences between fact and feelings, science and wishes.

Emerged into adulthood much better equipped to make fact based judgements.


94 posted on 05/10/2016 10:16:21 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Islam is Islam. Democracy is the train we ride to our ultimate victory. (Recep Erdogan))
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To: Mr. Mojo; Sans-Culotte; Williams; Loud Mime; BigEdLB; WKUHilltopper; the_individual2014; ...

Ping to my post at #72...good ammunition. Check out the video at the link when you have time, forward it to people you know, use it to beat down idiots like Jon Stewart and nearly any other liberal.

Given what is coming down the pike regarding Obama and Hiroshima, this is very, very well done.


95 posted on 05/10/2016 10:18:45 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: Zakeet

Smartest decision Truman ever made.

At the time Gen MacArthur was pushing for an invasion of Japan.
He wanted to be the Ike of the pacific because he *definitely* had political ambitions.

When Truman was given the projected casualty numbers for a land invasion he probably soiled his panties.
The casualties of an invasion of the Japanese mainland would have killed his political career and legacy.

The question was: kill a half million plus American troops and millions of Japanese in an invasion or kill an unknown number of Japanese with this untried super weapon?

The decision: kill an unknown number of Japanese and keep our side safe.

Truman made the right decision.
Anyone who doesn’t think so has no critical thinking abilities.


96 posted on 05/10/2016 10:18:47 AM PDT by oldvirginian (American by birth, Southern by the grace of God and Virginian because Jesus loves me. CRUZ 2016!)
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To: Zakeet
It wasn't wrong - it was TOTAL WAR.

There are far too many bedwetters in America now who have no idea what TOTAL WAR means hence have no right to govern the country.

97 posted on 05/10/2016 10:20:38 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: rlmorel

One thing is, karma works. Nagasaki was where the torpedo’s used at Pearl Harbor were manufactured. Payback is a b****h


98 posted on 05/10/2016 10:21:15 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: the_Watchman

See my link at post #72, Bill Whittle addresses that in a cogent, rational deconstruction.


99 posted on 05/10/2016 10:21:47 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: SkyDancer

Bill Whittle also addresses the liberal trope that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were cities that had no military value.

He also addresses the supposed lack of “warning” before the bombs dropped.


100 posted on 05/10/2016 10:23:41 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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