Posted on 05/09/2016 2:06:48 PM PDT by COUNTrecount
This story is an example why the republican party consistently loses against the progressive left. In response to the ridiculous, albeit recent, NC bathroom laws (which the MSM are having fun bashing conservatives on the head with) the Ted Cruz constituency wants to write bathroom laws into the 2016 republican party platform.
Yes, yes, unfortunately that’s the modern right-wing cultural GOPe. Look over there, shiny thing, shiny thing… quick, go chase it….. quick make a law to control it…. bathrooms, gays, transgenders… oh noes, the humanity !
WASHINGTON DC – After he lost the Republican nomination, Sen. Ted Cruz’s backers will now reportedly pivot towards trying to gain control of the GOP’s platform during the national convention.
According to The New York Times, top Cruz aide Ken Cuccinelli wrote in an email to supporters urging them to come to Cleveland in July to “protect against liberal changes to our platform.” Cuccinelli confirmed the effort to the Times, telling them that Cruz’s backers seek to protect “movement conservatism,” including a firming of the party’s core positions on abortion and the addition of language regarding transgender bathroom use.
“We want to have girls go in girls’ bathrooms,” he said, alluding to how presumptive nominee Donald Trump has taken a more liberal position than Cruz on which bathrooms transgender individuals can use. (read more)
Bathroom monitors? Really? That’s what the Ted Cruz wing of the republican party is worried about… being the bathroom police?
Personally, I’ve come to the conclusion the GOPe actually meets behind mahogany doors and picks out things -intentionally- to make issues out of and give the republican party the public appearance of insane nuttery. I’ve come to believe they do this on purpose as party of the entire construct of the UniParty…. there can be no other reasonable explanation.
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There was a moral component in that slavery was immoral.
Nor all moral issues can be dealt with politically.
Try to grasp the distinction.
I know it might take some actual thinking on your part.
The legislature passed a feel good law that will have no practical effect.
Unless you are going to hire people to check out suspects genitals
I would hope that a platform would address issues that the Party can actually deal with, not just feel good about commenting on.
Didn’t the Charlotte ordinance force private businesses to let men use their women’s bathroom?
Freegards
I am all for any law that overturns or blocks a law passed to allow men to invade women's lockers or restrooms
I don’t know, isn’t that a problem for Charlotte to deal with?
I guess it depends on if you think any level of government should be able to force private business into letting men use their women bathrooms.
Here’s what the NC law then did after the Charlotte ordinance:
“McCrory said in his video announcement that his executive order “maintains common sense gender-specific restroom and locker facilities in government buildings and in our schools,” but said that private businesses could continue to set their own rules for bathrooms and locker rooms.”
So publically owned restrooms don’t allow men to use the women’s while businesses like Target and Trump’s properties can still choose to allow men to use their women’s bathrooms.
Freegards
So what the heck are you talking about?
Idiotic. This reminds me of the 2012 debate with little georgie asking Romney about birth control. It’s a wedge issue and idiots fall for it EVERY damn time.
Nevermind the 19 trillion dollar debt, or the newest flood of illegals, or the released felons, or the felons voting rights, or 50 million to gaza - let’s worry about THIS.
The Charlotte ordinance said businesses couldn’t choose, they had to let men use their bathrooms. So if we let Charlotte choose, like you said, businesses would be forced to let men use their women’s bathrooms. The NC state law lets businesses choose with publicly owned bathrooms/areas being separated by sex in an sane way.
Freegards
Conservative? Who’s pushing this blog? Hilary?
The feds are already neck deep in on this issue - and on the wrong side. You can't say you are for limited government, or separation of powers, or state sovereignty, or the 10th Amendment, and then capitulate to the encroachment that the feds have already engaged on this issue.
This really is no different that the sanctuary city issue. Some city council passes a law that says it’s not going to follow state and/or federal law on detaining felons just because they are illegal immigrants. They’re getting people killed, and then they’re letting them out to kill again.
Now, Charlotte passes a law changing the logical prohibition of men from being in female facilities. As with the felon laws in sanctuary citizens, they have created a real threat.
I have READ what Charlotte’s law became. They removed from their law a restriction, and then they added sexual orientation and gender identity to their equal treatment provisions.
They did not even require that the people going into a restroom be dressed like their gender identity, have had surgery to implement their GI, have any cosmetics to appear to be their GI. No place....and I’m serious...NO PLACE did they require ANYTHING of ANYONE entering a facility. IOW, they made it LEGAL for a man to enter a female facility and simply have to say that he feels like being a woman.
I am not making this up, redwulf. It is fact. No requirement whatsoever.
And, being very honest, the North Carolina law restoring this does say that they must be the gender ON THEIR BIRTH CERTIFICATE. If these men will go to the trouble of changing their birth certificate...and it is legal to do so...they can then enter those facilities.
I don’t favor that, but at least it sorts out those who will take some kind of minimal step to ACTUALLY identify with their so-called new gender. It removes from consideration those who would simply walk in, peep at the girls, rape the girls, and leave.
The NC law requires sanity for publicly owned sex-exclusive areas. But private businesses can still choose to let men into their women’s bathrooms if that’s what they want to do, at least to my understanding. Which is fine, I personally don’t think it’s too swift for culture, but hey women can choose not to do business with them if they think it is a big deal.
Freegards
I think anyone offering the public a facility has to have them properly marked. That was true when we last built. The inspector had that on the check list, so it had to be part of some law someplace.
They can, of course, have single person facilities that are marked for use by either sex. But they have to be marked.
I think the feds shouldn’t be involved. It ends there for me. I don’t think this is on the same level of the life issue and to try and make this the next national “social” issue is dumb politics as well as being against the constitution.
Whether they should be or not, the Feds ARE INVOLVED. We either have to push back, or let them roll over us.
What is next is that they will make it illegal to identify a child by its biological sex on the birth certificate.
Wow! I just read that someplace the other day. If I can think of where I saw it, I’ll shoot you the link.
We can nip this in the bud by insisting on private bathrooms in schools, public areas, and business areas that are public. That is not hard at all to do, and it isn’t very expensive either.
I strongly support bud-nippin’.
So what are the Target or Trump Towers bathrooms marked as?
Freegards
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