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Death Comes for the Party
The Bull Elephant ^ | May 5, 2016 | Michael Giere

Posted on 05/09/2016 6:48:47 AM PDT by null and void

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To: null and void

Caution, do not so easily dismiss the GOPe. They will not go quietly. They are very practiced and adept at shifting positions and hiding in the nooks and crannies. They like the dems, never stop fighting and never give up. We conservatives need to do the same.

Also, we conservatives need to take control of the leadership of the party AND set the rules to it makes it easy to remove RINOs AND set a party platform that is conservative.

Further, we need to develop a grass roots approach that identifies conservatives at the state level as well. This becomes our future national candidate “farm”.


21 posted on 05/09/2016 7:22:09 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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22 posted on 05/09/2016 7:23:44 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: null and void; sickoflibs; Liz; stephenjohnbanker
Empty factories stand like tombstones to a disappearing self-determination; while several “conservative” prognosticators claim that the towns and the American citizens those factories supported deserve to “die.” Literally. So, many of us are scratching our heads and asking, “What the hell is “conservative” about uncontrolled immigration and corporate trade pacts?”

ping

23 posted on 05/09/2016 7:24:31 AM PDT by GOPJ (“What the hell is “conservative” about uncontrolled immigration and corporate trade pacts?”)
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LOL! Wish that weren’t so appropriate.


24 posted on 05/09/2016 7:26:46 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Socialists are just communists in their larval stage.)
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To: null and void

Interesting to note if Trump beats Hillary he will kill off the 2nd political dynasty that has ruled US Politics for the last 40 years.

Trump has taken out the Bush’s, now we need him to do the same with the Clintons


25 posted on 05/09/2016 7:27:26 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: taxcontrol
Caution, do not so easily dismiss the GOPe. They will not go quietly.

Off course they'll go down fighting, but we will beat them. People are more awake now than ever. The only thing that scares me is that theses power hungry cockroaches will try to take the country or whole world down with them.

26 posted on 05/09/2016 7:38:14 AM PDT by sailor76 (GO TRUMP!!! Make America Great Again!)
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To: null and void
The Weekly Standard’s William Kristol is evidently the self-appointed leader of an effort to mount a third party challenge to Trump intoning the name of Sen. Ben Sasse of Nebraska as its possible standard bearer, who for his part has also said he can’t support the Party nominee because he has to save “conservatism.”

Nothing more clearly demonstrates the absurdity of the anti-Trump hacks than the involvement of William Kristol, who to my knowledge has continued to pose as "Conservative," without ever distancing himself in any way from his notorious father, the avowed "Godfather" of the "Neocons."

To understand how truly non-Conservative the Neocons are, we took an essay explaining the phenomenon by Kristol's father, who admits that Leon Trotsky, head butcher in the Bolshevik Revolution--hint, not a Conservative adventure--was his hero in College! And in Kristol, Sr.'s own explanation let him demonstrate how seriously anti-Conservative is The Neocon Phenomenon.

In contrast, we have explained why we believe that Donald Trump is a natural Conservative, now in a dynamic process of waking up to the reality of how badly we Conservatives have been betrayed by faux Conservatives parroting the idiocy of what is "politically correct." Donald has already provided Americans with an immense benefit. His campaign offers the best chance to yet save America from what is eating out her cultural vitals.

Trump: Metaphor For American Conservatism.

27 posted on 05/09/2016 7:39:03 AM PDT by Ohioan
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ping


28 posted on 05/09/2016 7:39:26 AM PDT by SueRae (An election like no other..)
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To: ecomcon
The author of the article and your comments hit the nail squarely on the head.

I have wondered all these years where the "conservative" candidates pushed forwarded by the GOPe were? McCain? NOT! Almost a member of the democRAT party at times. Romney? NOT! Author of RomneyCare in Mass. that was the blueprint for ObamaCare. These candidates were anything but conservative.

Besides, I don't think a pure conservative would ever get past the primaries, if that, given Cruz's failure to ignite. A far-right evangelical conservative would never be able to garner enough votes in the general election to win IMO.

Given that history, now they are upset that Trump has won and he is not conservative enough for them? I don't think so. They just don't want him in because he is not part of their insider club of elites. He'll upset their apple cart. He'll slow or stop their gravy train. Simply put, they don't want Trump because he is not one of "them".

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29 posted on 05/09/2016 8:09:57 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: Ohioan

Kristol supporting Sasse is more than enough to make me very suspicious of Sasse.


30 posted on 05/09/2016 8:15:08 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: GOPJ; stephenjohnbanker
Guess who snookered Americans on free trade deals?

Ex-Pres Bill Clinton has earned hundreds of thousands of dollars speaking on behalf of a Colombia-based group pushing the free trade pact, and representatives of that organization tell The Huffington Post that the former president shared their sentiment.

In June 2005, Clinton was paid $800,000 by the Colombia-based Gold Service International to give four speeches throughout Latin America. The organization is, ostensibly, a development group tasked with bringing investment to the country and educating world leaders about the Colombia’s business opportunities.

The Colombia group’s chief operating officer, Andres Franco, said in an interview that the group supports the congressional ratification of the free trade agreement and that, when Clinton was on his speaking tour, he expressed similar opinions. “He was supportive of the trade agreement at the time that he came, but that was several years ago. In the present context, I don’t know what his position would be. It is not only about union trade rights. It is about what benefit or damage it can do to the US economy,” said Franco. “Events with the Clinton campaign [concerning Mark Penn] are not good at all for the trade agreement... Right now it became a campaign issues and that is sad, because it needs to go through.”

The comments were supported by a June 23, 2005 article from the news portal Terra (uncovered by Ben Smith at Politico) in which Clinton offered unambiguous support for the free trade agreement with Colombia. They appear to be the first public indication that Clinton has, at least in the past, supported the trade deal.

But evidence that the former president has been sympathetic to Colombia’s position is widely known. In 2007, Clinton met personally with and accepted an award from Colombia’s controversial president, Alvaro Uribe, during a time when the country was attempting to improve its image within the United States. Subsequently, Clinton urged Congress to view the country in a more favorable light.

Moreover, Clinton has helped Frank Giustra, one of the biggest donors to the Clinton Global Initiative, score meetings with high-ranking Colombian officials. Giustra has several business interests in the country, and both he and Clinton have collaborated on an effort to fight poverty in developing world by partnering up with mining companies in Colombia and elsewhere. (SOURCED http://nypost.com/2008/12/19/bubba-sheik-ing-the-money-tree/

more on the Clinton Colombian connection below

31 posted on 05/09/2016 8:20:18 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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Every aspect of the Bill Clinton presidency must be examined for wrongdoing. Recent news reports say the notoriously greedy Clintons used their tax- exempt Clinton Foundation charity to setup a Romney-like money-making private equity fund in the corrupt country of Colombia.

Why Colombia?

WIKI REFERENCE---In 2000, the Clinton administration committed $1.3 billion in foreign aid to the corrupt country of Colombia...... and up to five hundred military personnel to train local forces. An additional three hundred civilian personnel were allowed to assist in the eradication of coca.

The Clinton deal was an addition to $330 million of previously approved US aid to Colombia. $818 million was earmarked for 2000, with $256 million for 2001.

The Clinton-era appropriations for his Colombia Plan made Colombia the third largest recipient of foreign aid from the United States at the time.

--SNIP--

As of 2008, the U.S. has provided nearly $1.3 billion to Colombia through Clinton Plan Colombia nonmilitary aid programs:

<><> Alternative Development (2000-2008 cost: $500 million)

<><> Internally Displaced Persons (2000-2008 cost: $247 million)

<><> Demobilization and Reintegration (2000-2008 cost: $44 million)

<><> Democracy and Human Rights (2000-2008 cost: $158 million)

<><> Promote the Rule of Law (2000-2008 cost: $238 million)

LONG READ--REST AT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_Colombia

32 posted on 05/09/2016 8:22:53 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: thoughtomator
I would be at least a little suspicious of all the "Never Trump" crowd. It is one thing to criticize a candidate. It is another to utterly reject the candidate who puts America First, and repudiates the idiocy of "political correctness," which has been stifling the ability of Americans to openly discuss problems, and seek reasoned solutions.

The "Never Trump" types all appear to illustrate a morbid fear of even discussing clear threats to an American future. We can certainly tolerate differences of opinion; but we cannot tolerate an attitude which prevents even addressing phenomena critical to our having a future.

33 posted on 05/09/2016 8:38:01 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Liz
In June 2005, Clinton was paid $800,000 by the Colombia-based Gold Service International to give four speeches throughout Latin America. The organization is, ostensibly, a development group tasked with bringing investment to the country and educating world leaders about the Colombia’s business opportunities.

Looks like the Clinton's made their millions selling out the United States... disgusting people.

34 posted on 05/09/2016 9:03:09 AM PDT by GOPJ (“What the hell is “conservative” about uncontrolled immigration and corporate trade pacts?”)
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To: Ohioan

I’ve noticed the same thing too - fear of change wrapped in a false cocoon of “principle”. And of course there are plenty who are invested in the status quo and simply aren’t on our side.


35 posted on 05/09/2016 9:24:24 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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36 posted on 05/09/2016 9:32:13 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (This year we break the Uniparty or it breaks us.)
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“It has driven a stake in the heart of the post-1988 Republican Party. It’s dead. “

It had BETTER be, or in a short time, the country will go down the tubes.Just another 3rd worls hell hole, albeint with more money than the OTHER 3rd world hell holes. I voted for old man Bush the first time, and immediately regretted having done so. That was the last Repub POTUS candidate I have voted for.Until NOW. The rest have proven to be globalist traitor scum!


37 posted on 05/09/2016 11:25:28 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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Great job on Clinton as usual, Liz.

B T T T


38 posted on 05/09/2016 11:51:01 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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Excellent article.


39 posted on 05/09/2016 5:06:59 PM PDT by connyankee (Cannot stand Fox News. A pack of wolves, they be.)
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