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To: ifinnegan

Well what I was responding to was the assertion that reason doesn’t help with survival. As for whether or not it’s a trait how many animals out there show the ability to LOGICALLY (not physically) adapt to their surrounding? Just us. So that clearly makes it a trait. Which means it’s not meaningless in evolutionary context.

It IS an instinctual stimuli-response, we have a brain that can figure that stuff out and react to it even before we have language skills, look what happens when pre-language kids do things that get them hurt. They stick their finger in that hole in the wall and it hurts and they stop sticking their fingers in holes in the wall. The family pet needs a lot more shocks to figure that one out, if they ever do. The fact that we’re better at learning from our mistakes shows it is a selected behavior.


89 posted on 05/06/2016 1:55:58 PM PDT by discostu (Joan Crawford has risen from the grave)
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To: discostu

“It IS an instinctual stimuli-response”

Exactly. Therefore in the evolutionary atheist view it isn’t really reason as we understand it. In that world view there is no free will, and no reason which is a function of free will.

I am always amazed that the cognoscenti so cavalierly dismiss free will. But I guess they have to.


91 posted on 05/06/2016 2:00:32 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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