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Evolution: The enemy of reason. If our minds were not designed, why would we trust them?
Creation Ministries International ^ | 5-5-16 | Keaton Halley

Posted on 05/06/2016 11:22:38 AM PDT by fishtank

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To: Little Pig

Oh, and to top it all off, if the mind were designed, why are there people with mental defects or disorders?

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Why do cars (which, as far as I know, were indeed designed) break down and leave you beside the road?


41 posted on 05/06/2016 12:34:47 PM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: Little Pig

“Oh, and to top it all off, if the mind were designed, why are there people with mental defects or disorders? ...”etc...

Boilerplate stuff, but nonsensical.

I guess your car never broke down.


42 posted on 05/06/2016 12:35:22 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: fishtank

“If all our acts are conditioned, then so are our theories. Yet your Behaviorist claims his is objectively true.”—Auden


43 posted on 05/06/2016 12:36:41 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: papertyger
Your proposition is the equivalent of the static organizing itself into a coherent broadcast.

Non-sequitur. Neither the static nor the broadcast are part of the radio.

44 posted on 05/06/2016 12:37:04 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: ifinnegan
Actually they are the same thing (assuming “from nothing” you mean from non- living matter).

No, the informed evolutionists have always conceded their inability to produce a workable model for abiogenesis. They pick up from the point of life and pretty much ignore anything before.

That is the context of my statement.

45 posted on 05/06/2016 12:37:19 PM PDT by papertyger (-/\/\/\-)
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To: fishtank

Evolution = idolatry.


46 posted on 05/06/2016 12:37:26 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.)
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To: Boogieman

Darwin was one of many. With the latest genetic analysis, evolution is obviously God’s method of creation.


47 posted on 05/06/2016 12:37:38 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: fishtank

Bmk


48 posted on 05/06/2016 12:38:41 PM PDT by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: ifinnegan
But design vs evolution refers specifically to intelligent design wherein, I think, both ID’ers and Darwinists agree there is a dichotomy.

Some of them do. I've never heard a reasonable explanation from either side for why there must be a dichotomy, the just insist it must be there.

49 posted on 05/06/2016 12:38:46 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: fishtank

Because why wouldn’t we? And have you noticed how lucrative the psychological and self help industries are? Maybe we really don’t.


50 posted on 05/06/2016 12:38:55 PM PDT by discostu (Joan Crawford has risen from the grave)
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To: Little Pig

“What I said was: Reason, as used in the original article, is a perfectly valid survival characteristic, in that humans who are unable to reason would not be likely to procreate.”

Your response is quite long.

Let’s just look at the above.

What evidence do you have for this?

And, again, if you are citing “reason” as a tangible definable objective trait inheritable and assignable within phenotype, and presumably genotype, you need to define it to even begin to approach evaluating your hypothesis that “humans who are unable to reason would not be likely to procreate”.


51 posted on 05/06/2016 12:41:55 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Moonman62

Creationism is the use of science to refute liberalism.


52 posted on 05/06/2016 12:42:12 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Just mythoughts
The purpose of this 'flesh' age, which has a time signature placed. Only those that refused to take this flesh journey have already been judged and received the death sentence of their 'soul/spirit intellect'. God so 'loved' the world that He gave His only begotten Son... And God did not use evolution as His vehicle for Him to come in a flesh body. It is not about whether He could or could NOT it is about what He did and why.

Conflating faith and reason doesn't make them interchangeable.

53 posted on 05/06/2016 12:42:48 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: ifinnegan
How is it not? Evolution can not be separated from creation.

Evolution is modification within limits. It's never been shown to cross a species barrier. In addition, it does not supply an explanation for first cause - i.e. the very beginning of life itself.

Evolution-as-creation is ultimately based on the idea of consciousness springing from complexity alone, a thoroughly baseless theory derived through conflating consciousness with measurable awareness.

54 posted on 05/06/2016 12:43:54 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Moonman62

Of course! God designed the universe and evolution was his plan.


55 posted on 05/06/2016 12:46:37 PM PDT by Ditter (God Bless Texas!)
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To: tacticalogic
Non-sequitur. Neither the static nor the broadcast are part of the radio.

Hardly. By your own admission, radio was designed, and it was designed in tandem with broadcast. Static is the environment the radio and broadcast operate in.

56 posted on 05/06/2016 12:47:37 PM PDT by papertyger (-/\/\/\-)
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To: ifinnegan

Reason is a massive survival advantage. Because it let’s you understand that what is true today is true again tomorrow. It let’s you notice that the area around that tree flooded during the rain so it’s probably not a good place to shelter from the next rain storm. It let’s you understand that the berries on that bush made you puke so you probably shouldn’t eat them anymore. It’s what let’s you not be my cats when the wife is out of town hurrying into the bedroom in the morning expecting to find her even though she didn’t go into the bedroom last night. It allows you to process the past to predict the future and plan accordingly.


57 posted on 05/06/2016 12:47:45 PM PDT by discostu (Joan Crawford has risen from the grave)
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To: tacticalogic

AFAIK, there is only evidence of speciation, e.g. dog breeds, "Darwin's finches", etc.

There is no evidence for variation outside the the Biblical "kinds", which might very well be the taxonomic classification of family.

58 posted on 05/06/2016 12:47:58 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: tacticalogic

Hey, everybody gets to make their choices. There is no plausible cause for evolution, but some are hooked on it.


59 posted on 05/06/2016 12:49:14 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Boogieman

That’s like saying God didn’t design the Theory of relativity man did. What??


60 posted on 05/06/2016 12:51:17 PM PDT by The Cuban
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