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The Next Act of the Neocons
The New York Times ^ | July 5, 2014 | JACOB HEILBRUNN

Posted on 04/30/2016 4:14:14 PM PDT by euram

Even as they castigate Mr. Obama, the neocons may be preparing a more brazen feat: aligning themselves with Hillary Rodham Clinton and her nascent presidential campaign, in a bid to return to the driver’s seat of American foreign policy.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; election; foreignpolicy; hillary; neocons; trump
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To: Fhios

I don’t see how there is any way that we promote globalization, but remain unaffected ourselves. Globalization essentially requires the gradual lowering of borders and the dissolution of cultural and economic (and even political) separation between nations. There is no way we could remain the same country in that sort of international situation, even when we are influencing others more than vice-versa.


21 posted on 04/30/2016 5:04:00 PM PDT by FenwickBabbitt
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To: FenwickBabbitt

Yes, that’s their version of globalization, and most in the west are unilaterally following the formula while China, Russia and most of the rest of the world hold off until such time as they feel like flexing their influence.

My version is we do the globalizing and the deciding.


22 posted on 04/30/2016 5:10:31 PM PDT by Fhios (Going Donald Trump is as close to going John Galt as we'll get.)
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To: WENDLE

We may disagree about Bolton


23 posted on 04/30/2016 5:11:26 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 -- 43 BCE))
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To: Aria

The power is mostly just a means to stealing more of our money , imho


24 posted on 04/30/2016 5:12:11 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 -- 43 BCE))
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To: faithhopecharity

I will ask you to look very closely. I contend that he is an interventionist, nation building , Globalist and he is clearly an anti- sovereigntist.He was right in the ear with bush not only on the Iraq disaster but on immigration. Give this guy the hook to stage left.


25 posted on 04/30/2016 5:20:45 PM PDT by WENDLE (TRUMP IS THE GREATEST AMERICAN SINCE GEORGE WASHINGTON!!)
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To: euram

They give war, a sometimes necessary evil, a bad name.


26 posted on 04/30/2016 5:22:13 PM PDT by MHT (,`)
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To: Vince Ferrer

The pukes have their own agenda........does not include the interests of the US.


27 posted on 04/30/2016 5:25:52 PM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: WENDLE

I believe Iraq was good move initially to get rid of dangerous Hussein. Trying to civilize or nation build a Muslim society is however like trying to sell coals to Newcastle - an impossibility. So We probably agree part- way anyway. Obama so phuqued everything up for us — selling us out everywhere — that anything Bush did or tried to do pales into insignificance, imho. The key problem today is O, not someone from years ago. We need to address and try to repair the O damage first


28 posted on 04/30/2016 5:33:33 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 -- 43 BCE))
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To: euram

Just putting the neo in neocons. What did anyone expect from this crew?


29 posted on 04/30/2016 5:37:50 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Operation Wetback II, now with computers)
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To: euram

No surprise here. A big-government globalist who uses her family foundation and a private e-mail server in her home to sell our nation to foreign interests is exactly what these @ssholes want in the White House.


30 posted on 04/30/2016 5:40:15 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")
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To: Carl Vehse
Why would the neocons be willing to give aid and comfort to the enemy to stop Trump?!?

See my last post. Hillary Clinton is not "the enemy" to these people.

31 posted on 04/30/2016 5:41:52 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")
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To: faithhopecharity

Ok. Great reading your comments. Your opinion is quite conventional . My view is Hussein never did a thing to us and had not a single weapon of mass destruction. The UN inspectors were finding none so we demanded they leave and bombed anyway. It was a national tragedy unsurpassed in foreign policy not only for America but for Iraq which is in total chaos. 5000 American soldiers dead. 40,000 wounded ( 300,000 Iraq dead) and maimed- $2 Trillion wasted on nothing. But that is my view. Good day and God Speed.


32 posted on 04/30/2016 5:42:32 PM PDT by WENDLE (TRUMP IS THE GREATEST AMERICAN SINCE GEORGE WASHINGTON!!)
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To: Liz

Never has. We are putting them out of control.They have failed.


33 posted on 04/30/2016 5:52:44 PM PDT by Carry me back (.Cut the feds by 90%)
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To: Fai Mao

“I’ve been pimping a Clinton/Kasich 2016 national unity ticket for a couple of weeks.”

LOL. A criminal/rino ticket. That’ll get my vote.


34 posted on 04/30/2016 5:55:20 PM PDT by ModelBreaker (')
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To: WENDLE

There were however those 500 big Russian trucks hauling X out of Syria ( reported to be chemical/biological and nuclear - related weapons materials ). Bush did nothing to stop that and so he left himself open to a lot of criticism ever since. I personally think his serious mistake was to try the civilizing of the Moslem savages (” nation building g”). I think he could have set up a couple bases there and then pulled out the vast majority of our men and let the Muslims run their own krapistan —,it’s clear we have enough trouble trying to regain constitutional republican government in USA without trying to export it to a bunch of Muslim savages IMHO. Anyway O has done a 1000 times more damage then Bush ( and in O’s case it’s deliberate). We need to focus a lot more on repairing the O damage now -— to the Extent it can be fixed I do not know. I will join you if anyone ever tries to civilize or ‘nation build’ Moslems again, that’s a dead loser strategy and if we didn’t all know it in 2001 we surely can see it with O today. Best,


35 posted on 04/30/2016 5:56:30 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 -- 43 BCE))
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To: Carl Vehse

You people read a two year old article (predating Trump) and give meaning to that article based on current events? That is stupid.


36 posted on 04/30/2016 6:29:10 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (The most vocal supporters of a good con man are the victims.)
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To: euram

What is Free Republic doing running an article by this slimy Liberal? This guy wrote in the huffington puffington post saying Bernie Sanders filibusters were great unlike the Republicans. It figures that you Trumpen Conservatives (lumpen Conservatives) would use this guy to push the phony Trump narrative that he is anything of a Conservative along. One needs Liberals to help cement your support for Trump as the incoherent flim flam man loses to Hillary in the general election.


37 posted on 04/30/2016 7:59:33 PM PDT by Stepan12
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To: euram
You know, I get it. Not that long ago, when you saw a crew up on someone's roof putting on new shingles, you saw Americans. Not so much now.

Not that long ago, if you saw a crew siding a house, they were Americans. Not so much now.

Not that long ago, if you saw a crew pouring a new driveway, they were Americans. Not so much now.

Not that long ago, if you saw a crew building a house, they were Americans. Not so much now.

Not that long ago, if you saw a crew doing landscaping, they were Americans. Not so much now.

And on and on. A list, as long as my arm, of jobs formerly held by American citizens, now lost to illegal aliens. We've all noticed. And mostly, people have enjoyed the cheap labor, while too few cared, until Donald came along.

So I get it. Your no/low skilled jobs have been stolen, by people who shouldn't be here. As a software engineer, I face the same employment threat from H1B visas, and outsourcing to India.

So the wall makes sense. So does seriously managing immigration and visas.

And I agree, our free-trade agreements are far too skewed in favor of foreign competition. None of the countries we have trade agreements with have anything remotely approaching the regulatory costs of the EPA and NLRB, so our American businesses go into competition with one hand tied behind their backs.

That said (and stipulated to), the world is full of people living in mud huts who are willing to do unskilled labor for pennies a day. Anyone thinking that Trump can replicate the Hawley-Smoot tariff act but get a different result, please take your medicine.

38 posted on 04/30/2016 11:50:13 PM PDT by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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To: euram
Since the neo-cons are leading the #nevertrump bunch, I thought this old article might shed some light on their motivation.

Then there's the bunch on FR that aid and abet them while telling themselves they're exercising "conservative principles"........cat's-paws every one.

39 posted on 05/01/2016 4:57:40 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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