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When You Ban the Sale of Ivory, You Ban Elephants
The Cato Institute ^ | January 21, 2013 | Doug Bandow

Posted on 04/30/2016 11:18:12 AM PDT by OddLane

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To: OddLane

It should be noted that Asian and African elephants are very different species. When you think of a friendly elephant who lives with a trainer for many years and are very helpful, working animals, those are Asian elephants.

If a wild African elephant sees you, it might very well chase you down to kill you. The effort to domesticate and train African elephants only began with the Belgians in the 19th Century. So while it *can* be done, it isn’t easy. The end result will be a trained *wild* animal, like a trained lion.


21 posted on 04/30/2016 1:20:55 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: OddLane

The author is dead wrong. We need to bulldoze all the ivory instead of selling it and using the money to go toward anti-poaching efforts.

Just kidding. He’s right on. I once shared an airplane row with a safari camp owner. We shared just this conversation how when there are authorized hunts and value, the elephants are valued and poaching is non-existent. It sounds like villagers and hunters police the poachers.

A legitimate trade in a legitimate item brings value.

I just hope nobody names one of the wild elephants and tries to give him human characteristics. The rat of the jungle.


22 posted on 04/30/2016 2:18:09 PM PDT by cyclotic (Liberalism is what smart looks like to stupid people.)
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To: OddLane

Most elephants are Muslim, some Hindu.


23 posted on 04/30/2016 2:49:02 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors)
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Yes, there were elephants in Vietnam and they occasionally interfered with combat operations.

24 posted on 04/30/2016 2:56:19 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Arm_Bears

Buffalo (Bison) can be very profitable for meat. The problem is that they can’t be herded like cattle, they go where they want to. (a herd escaped here in NM’s east mountains and it took a long time to round them up.


25 posted on 04/30/2016 2:58:08 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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“Because cows are profitable, buffalo are not.”

They cross cows and buffalo now (Beefalo). Unfortunately that doesn’t mean a Holstein the size of a minivan, just healthier meat and a hardier animal.


26 posted on 04/30/2016 3:04:21 PM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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“Yes, there were elephants in Vietnam and they occasionally interfered with combat operations. “

Man, I’d hate to go up against a pissed off elephant with only a 5.56mm. It might be hard to explain using a LAW to the C.O., but I’d take the chance.


27 posted on 04/30/2016 3:06:32 PM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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Actually, elephants are rather easily killed with the 5.56, and Asian elephants aren’t known to attack humans without cause (threatening their young). Where they posed a danger was when they were frightened they would panic and run, and if you were in the way, you got stepped on. I know of one man who was killed while lying beside a trail in an ambush position, and when the ambush was triggered a nearby elephant panicked, ran through the ambush, stepped on him, and killed him.

You can read more about Vietnam’s elephants in the story “My Valley” on this website: http://projectdelta.net/dry_hole.htm


28 posted on 04/30/2016 3:34:38 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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"Actually, elephants are rather easily killed with the 5.56..."

Then why did they have to use great big "elephant guns?":

2-bore elephant rifle

29 posted on 04/30/2016 6:47:41 PM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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The problem is that they can’t be herded like cattle, they go where they want to

Their hides are so thick they ignore barbed wire, hence they can't be fenced in economically.

30 posted on 05/01/2016 10:01:58 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney (,)
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Not to mention they can easily clear a six foot fence, on the off chance they don’t feel like walking through it.


31 posted on 05/01/2016 10:06:28 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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