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To: Jan_Sobieski
Thanks for your service, FRiend.

I have almost got to the point I have difficulty even posting about it anymore, because it is clear that facts do not matter here. It is being pushed ahead by people who don't have the faintest idea of what real combat is. I have never been in combat (thankfully) but I have read enough to understand that it isn't any of the things that people pushing for women in combat think it is. Their idea of real combat is based on two visions they have:

Personnel sitting in an air conditioned room monitoring screens and pushing buttons, or a 130 lb woman kicking the butts of multiple men in a hand to hand combat, as seen in Hollywood.

The truth is that real combat is more like Edson's Ridge on Guadalcanal or Chosin in Korea. The entire engagement can hinge on the ability of one fighting hole to hold their ground in hand-to-hand combat. And every account I have seen indicates combat was, for many men, the most physically (and mentally) draining thing they had done in their entire lives.

Combat has nothing to do with providing equal opportunity. It has everything to do with surviving and winning, which are blind to things like sex, gender identity, race, or income level.

It has everything to do with preparation, training, equipment, mental preparedness, and physical preparedness, not always in that direct order.

And combat cares not at all that you have a 50-50 distribution of men and women, or that the portion of men contains a number of men who are not in great shape, or that a portion of the women are superbly fit.

All combat knows is that an average very fit woman would be unlikely to win a direct physical fight with an average man who is far less fit than she is. We wouldn't get points for putting women in combat, giving them an "equal opportunity". We would get dead women (and men, as a result) and lost engagements.

This graph below illustrates the salient points, that are not in question, and come from medical sources who have demonstrated a willingness to portray women as the physical equals of men. The hatched red area is the area the tells the story:

This has nothing to do with respect for women, which is how the people pushing for women in combat will take issue with.

It has everything to do with the logistics of supplying/mandating gender specific items and behaviors/processes, unit cohesion, mission capability, and at the fundamental level, the AVERAGE strength of a given combatant.

When one small thing can make the difference in actual combat between victory and defeat, we would stack our own table against ourselves by insisting on women in combat roles.

11 posted on 04/29/2016 10:55:43 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: rlmorel; Jan_Sobieski
I also put in 8 years active, as an Air Defense Artillery officer. I was there at the beginning of the AVF, I could tell you dozens of stories, both good and bad, though they are likely interesting only to me.

I worked with a greater proportion of good men/good soldiers over poor soldiers. There are always those who are determined to go their own path, though I had several in my platoons who straightened themselves out.

I question why our military is being redesigned for the sake of several minorities (women in combat, gays, transgenders, lactating moms, etc.) at the expense of unit readiness? All I ever knew was the concept of accomplishing the mission. As a platoon leader/battery commander/primary staff officer, if my unit did not accomplish its mission, it was my responsibility. I have accepted the fact that I was a real PITA most of the time, only because it was my butt that was on the line. I wasn't much more than an average officer, but my strengths were clearly showing initiative, imagination, and independence. These traits worked to my benefit in positions where I could be anywhere from 40 to 400 miles from my battalion headquarters.

With more impediments being forced on small unit commanders today, the brass is striking at the heart of what makes our military the envy of the world: the independence and flexibility at the squad/platoon/company level to accomplish their mission. We're sending those units into battle burdened by 50 pounds of rocks in every rucksack.

Fortunately for me, I served during an era of peace, but I knew what it was like to put my rear on the line, whether it be a tactical evaluation, or for my soldiers who relied on me. I must have done a few things right, as my battalion commander in Germany asked me to work for him when we both returned to Fort Bliss. He put me in a LTC's job when I was but a mere Captain with a year time in grade.

12 posted on 04/29/2016 11:23:46 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi! My vote went to Cruz.)
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