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Poll: More than half say nominating process is 'rigged'
The Hill ^

Posted on 04/27/2016 8:40:06 AM PDT by GilGil

More than two-thirds of Americans want the presidential nomination processes to be changed and more than half say the systems are “rigged,” a new poll found.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll released Wednesday found that 51 percent of likely voters believe the primary system is “rigged” against some candidates.

And 71 percent say parties should pick their presidential nominees with a direct vote, instead of using delegates.

Twenty-seven percent said they did not understand how the primary process works, and 44 percent said they were unsure why delegates are involved at all.

Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump and Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders have frequently lamented that their parties’ systems are unfair.

Nearly half of respondents said they would like all 50 states to hold their nominating contests at the same day, instead of spread out across five months.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1237; 2016polls; conventions; corruption; delegates; indiana; primaries; process; rigged; trump
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When over half of people agree with Trump,this becomes a true testament to his persuasive skills.
1 posted on 04/27/2016 8:40:06 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: GilGil

Well, the Democrat process is definitely rigged.


2 posted on 04/27/2016 8:40:35 AM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: MeganC

Being under investigation should automatically disqualify you


3 posted on 04/27/2016 8:43:28 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: GilGil

“More than two-thirds of Americans want the presidential nomination processes to be changed and more than half say the systems are ‘rigged,’ a new poll found.”

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If this system and RULES are good enough for Rush Limbaugh...they’re good enough for me! /sarc


4 posted on 04/27/2016 8:43:33 AM PDT by Artcore (Trump 2016!)
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If they are good enough for establishment sellout Rush then they must be changed ASAP.


5 posted on 04/27/2016 8:45:39 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (#NeverHillary now that we've gotten rid of Lying LOSER Ted Cruz.)
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To: GilGil

What makes it rigged is that every State sets up it nomination process. Many States are corrupt as hell. How to correct is impossible since a corrupt RNC has the right to adjust and change rules to fit their need. I can see no real solution.


6 posted on 04/27/2016 8:46:52 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: GilGil
Formally there is no "primary system." What we have today developed on an ad hoc basis. What people need to recognize is that political parties are private organizations. The constitution has nothing to say about them. (In fact the founders warned us about them.) Parties can nominate a candidate any way they wish to, even at a "contested convention," which, by the way, is what all of them once were.


7 posted on 04/27/2016 8:47:21 AM PDT by Genoa
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To: GilGil

The nominating systems for the RNC and the DNC are both the same in most ways.

They are designed to give voters the illusion of having a choice while retaining the true power for the party elites and insiders.

There is a significant difference between the two however.

The democrat system is more overt.
They are cheaters and scammers and don’t give a rat’s arse who knows it.

The republican process is more covert.
They are cheaters and scammers and try to hide it and pretend they aren’t.


8 posted on 04/27/2016 8:48:27 AM PDT by Iron Munro (. - rOUND UOP)
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To: butlerweave
Being under investigation should automatically disqualify you

Oh, that has NO CHANCE of being abused.

LOL!

9 posted on 04/27/2016 8:49:08 AM PDT by Lazamataz (When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.)
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To: GilGil

People should have recognized that after McAmnesty was nominated after TWO amnesty attempts.


10 posted on 04/27/2016 8:54:44 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: GilGil

Even Lyin’ Ted may start claiming “it’s rigged”:

http://theresurgent.com/scott-walkers-gop-ignores-cruz-delegate-slate-in-wisconsin/


11 posted on 04/27/2016 8:55:37 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: GilGil
When over half of people agree with Trump,this becomes a true testament to his persuasive skills.

Or could it be that it is Trump who agrees with what the people already knew....no persuasion necessary.

I know I didn't need Trump to convince me that the Republican party is corrupt. I've known that for decades.

12 posted on 04/27/2016 8:57:31 AM PDT by Roccus (Fighting POLITICIANS is the true WOT)
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To: GilGil

Persuasive of an false idea. That the President or even the Candidate ought to be elected by a direct vote. This is no bettering than voting for American idol. It will give media and money an even greater role in the process. Look at France and note that there the elite still pick the winners.


13 posted on 04/27/2016 9:13:29 AM PDT by RobbyS (```JMJ)
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To: RobbyS

The delegate system should be reformed not eliminated.


14 posted on 04/27/2016 9:14:31 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: GilGil

I don’t see any point in a delegate system either in a primary system unless they are attempting to even out population dense areas much like the electorate system does, so that votes in less population dense areas also carry weight.

However, a mathematical algorithm can be designed to do that without human delegates. It would be a point system. It’s the idea that the people can be overridden by private enterprises and therefore be denied their vote, that is causing the problem.

Rules for the next election cycle need to be determined at the current election cycle so that they aren’t arbitrary. Candidates as well as voters, need to be able to plan accordingly. Arbitrary rules/laws go hand in hand with tyranny at all levels of society and in all countries, even in private homes.

I am no Einstein, but when even the Einsteins can’t figure this out, it leaves a person wondering, doesn’t it?


15 posted on 04/27/2016 9:17:38 AM PDT by PrairieLady2 (Choose Cruz...and looze.)
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To: GilGil
And 71 percent say parties should pick their presidential nominees with a direct vote, instead of using delegates.

This will save candidates a lot of time and money. They'll never have to set foot out of a state's largest cities. No need to visit Joe's Diner in Podunksville.

16 posted on 04/27/2016 9:18:31 AM PDT by randita
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To: Roccus; GilGil

It took Trump pointing out the corruption for most people to seen it, even if people here already knew it.

Trump is saying what most posters here have been thinking for decades, but he is getting a lit more people to come over to our way of thinking.

I’m not sure how he’s accomplished this, since his oratory skills are not what us typical for a politician, but he has delivered wonders already.


17 posted on 04/27/2016 9:18:46 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: Roccus

An whey do you think that Trump is not corrupt. people have been carried away with the idea of the “Great Man.” Is this your idea of a Great Man? Jackson, Taylor, Grant and Eisenhower were successful generals. Jackson and Ike were successes in Office, mainly because each was at bottom also a successful politician. Eisenhower came to the white House after orchestrating a great political and military alliance, most immediately from running NATO. How does Trump measure up to either man?


18 posted on 04/27/2016 9:19:36 AM PDT by RobbyS (```JMJ)
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To: Genoa

If we had a parliamentary system, which encourages multiple parties and even smaller, fringe parties can have an impact, I would agree with you. But, we don’t.

We have a two party system.

The GOP and Democrat party may technically be private organizations, but the people that control these parties also control who may (and may not) run for political office. In practical terms, they control government, because they control who may be a government official.

This is, by definition, an oligarchy. It is unacceptable for our country to be run as an oligarchy.


19 posted on 04/27/2016 9:20:24 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Lying Ted & Outsourcing Carly, a losing combo.)
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To: Roccus
I know I didn't need Trump to convince me that the Republican party is corrupt. I've known that for decades.

The problem is, I think most Republicans actually thought that the RNC wasn't corrupt. They actually thought that the Democrats were the ONLY party with insiders and rules-making committees.

Most Democrats KNOW their party is corrupt, but are willing to overlook that evil, because it thwarts the Republicans.

Most Republicans KNOW the Democrat party is corrupt, bu ignore or miss the internal corruption of the RNC (because they used to hide it).

The true FAILURE point for America can be summed up by a single statement, made by John Adams, many, many years ago:

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. . . . Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
20 posted on 04/27/2016 9:21:02 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Public sector unions: A & B agreeing on a contract to screw C!)
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