Posted on 04/26/2016 2:24:16 AM PDT by CutePuppy
Anyone who has been here for any amount of time knows that one of our biggest laments is that the system allows the GOPe/RNC and others to select who our candidate pool will be and also steer towards their own favorite candidate - taking the will of the People out of it and making it harder to get a real conservative or any outsider into the mix.
Funny how so many of them now have no problem with that system if it means that the priss gets to stamp his pretty foot and to lecture down at those who have decided that they no longer want him as their candidate.
They are ‘Rigged’ against voters. If a candidate wins a State, that should be it, he chooses his delegates. The way it is now, Trump can win a State in a landslide, and Cruz being connected to the Party System,and Bosses, can wind up choosing Trumps delegates. INSANITY.
These states which have convoluted primaries are indeed rigged. They are not aimed against Trump but against anyone the established Republicans deem unacceptable to them. Their aim is to maintain the status quo.
“is an act”
Exactly. He’s just playing the salesman game to sell himself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcMhTKO9S_g
Advertising guy breaks down the science behind effective creative copy using Trump as an example. (non-partisan)
well then, work to change the system. No, Trump is NOT a lawyer, but he can afford to hire a hell of a lot more of them than WE can. cheated? hardly. everybody loves the ‘victim’ especially in metro areas. its a game and he’s good at it.
I’ll bet Cubans were so happy to get rid of Batista, only to realize they were stuck with Castro! And look how looooooong he lives!
anti-abortion activists are firm in their support of the rights of the unborn and don’t believe that the right of the baby should be withheld no matter the will of the mother.
in realville, especially before dna, the only parent you could be absolutely SURE of is the mother.
you do NOT need two citizen parents to be a citizen. you do not need a patriotic soldier parent to be a citizen. you do not need an appointed to a foreign country standing to be a citizen. you need ONE parent who is a citizen to confer CITIZENSHIP on a child, no matter what the future plans of the parents are.
Ted Cruz is a natural born citizen according to the Rule of Law. period.
Instead of having party bosses decide who is "the candidate the majority can support", then perhaps we should have a rule where the sequence of state voting is randomized better, and after 1/3 of the population has voted, anybody not in the top three must withdraw.
Apparently not even all Cruz supporters believed that at one time. So many questions about his mom and British citizenship exist that should be addressed.
Not even that, frankly. It isn't uncommon for the defendant in a paternity lawsuit (e.g., for child support, etc.) to require the mother to conclusively she is, indeed, the mother. IOW proof by DNA.
...to conclusively prove...
>> a complicated application of rules that only a lawyer could love.
1. Google “where is my caucus precinct in Colorado”
2. Walk down the street to the neighborhood High School
3. Find the classroom in that High School where your neighborhood caucus precinct is meeting.
4. Raise your hand when they ask “who volunteers to be a delegate”.
5. Write your choice among the volunteers down on a scrap of paper.
If you think that’s too complicated, may that’s because only the dendrites left over from when you “were” a Democrat are still firing.
Your smart ass response to exDemMom shows you do not get what Americans are upset about. The party picked the delegates in CO not the people and the “rules” were set up to do that. It not only disenfranchised the CO voters with its outsider excluding rules it went against the poll showing what the people wanted. It was fraud (full of errors). So please stop blowing smoke up our asses with that admitted (We did it #NeverTrump”) and busted corrupt primary system. http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=16605
>> The party picked the delegates in CO not the people
Nope. Not in my neighborhood caucus precinct.
All I had to do was:
1. Google where is my caucus precinct in Colorado
2. Walk down the street to the neighborhood High School
3. Find the classroom in that High School where your neighborhood caucus precinct is meeting.
4. Raise hand when asked who volunteers to be a delegate, or not.
5. Write my choice among the volunteers down on a scrap of paper.
5a Then we held a straw poll with Cruz 22 to Trump 6.
6. Our neighborhood delegates then met with the delegates from other neighborhoods at the state convention, where the state delegates were selected from among the all the neighborhood delegates.
But those FACTS won’t stop you from whining.
I actually want you to keep pushing the Cruz defense of the undefenseable. Its killing ya with voters. Keep up the good work for us Americans.
I want you to refute the FACTS, and tell us how the evile GOPe retards managed to CONSPIRE and “rig the system” in Colorado as you allege.
You can’t.
And BTW, the candidate most favored by the delegates selected in our conservative neighborhood - it wasn’t Cruz. but Ben Carson.
Suprise Suprise Gomer Pyle.
I gather it is likely a takeoff of what Franklin said (something like, "You have a republic, sir, if you can keep it" coupled with equating a preponderance of voters' wishes with 'tyranny' [ooga booga, small 'd' democracy]. Pray tell, if you are really in Colorado, exactly how many times did you have to go to these meetings to see your wishes effected. Or, was it JUST like a single, mass voter thing where anyone so minded could just do what you did and just go find out and do, once? Was it on a day where you had all day to do it? The truth of it is that the "rules" proponents here in this venue are trying to equate PARTY RULES [favoring the insiders] with the "Rule of Law" in this country, thus making all the machinations 'the just actions of a true Republic'. What you all are doing and rabidly are defending is a system of the "Rule of Rules" and equating it with the "Rule of Law." It is a charade of the most snide and disrespecting character.
Easy to do with the result of 100% of the delegates in favor of Cruz when polls said Trump would have won the vote by the voters.
That’s the facts.
“Getting 95% of the delegates while getting 60% of the vote in a large state like NY and then complaining about “rigged” and “unfair” system may be considered “good politics” or strategy in the primary”
This is a non starter and is a whining Cruz talking point.
1.) If you win 50 + 1% of the vote you should get all delegates, whether it is statewide or by district or a combination, depending on the state
2.) The system IS rigged, against the voters!
There was one caucus meeting in our neighborhood. It was the first one I attended.
In addition to selecting our neighborhood delegates, we could also make resolutions to be passed up the chain to the state convention.
The process was about as transparent as it could get.
>>likely a takeoff of what Franklin said
No, its the result of my analysis of the Errors in Thomas Jeffersons ONE CODE FOR MORALITY - in the context of what De Tocqueville would latter recognize as the tyranny of the majority as it was unleashed in France.
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