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To: jdsteel
Pennsylvania as well. And the election boards of 50 states too. But for some that is not enough. Neither would a Supreme Court decision be enough. Not even if the founding fathers spoke from the heavens and declared Cruz an NBC would it be enough.

No more so than if they declare a tail a leg, as Lincoln so aptly put it.

The meaning of the term "natural citizen" is like a natural constant. It cannot be changed by legislation or decree. It is based on "Natural Law" which is the philosophical underpinnings that justified our independence from England.

The fact that a whole host of ignorant people say otherwise does not make it so.

Their minds are closed to reason.

Exactly backwards. The people who have researched this term and who have discovered it's origins, arrived at their position precisely because their minds were open to reason.

The people who's minds are closed to reason are the ones who simply believe what people say merely because there are a lot of people saying it.

62 posted on 04/22/2016 11:54:03 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp; SeekAndFind

From the link provided by Seekandfind:

“Masin relied on the 1898 Supreme Court case Wong Kim Ark, in which the court applied the 14th Amendment and English common law to determine that “all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.”
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2016/04/n-j-court-declares-cruz-eligible-for-white-house/#2zo3buSSgkMG9u4o.99";

There are TWO, not three types of US citizens. Those that are naturalized and those that are NBC, with citizenship given at birth. There is no type that is citizen from birth but not NBC.

The “lots of people saying it” in my case are those tasked with the duty of ascertaining eligibility of a candidate, judges and the Harvard Law Review. Not, as Lincoln said, those that can be fooled either some of the time or all of the time.

I’ve read the federalist papers and the constitution too, and believe I understand their motivations on this issue.

But, as I said, nothing will change your mind as it is closed on the subject.


89 posted on 04/22/2016 2:54:38 PM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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