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To: jdsteel

“You both insist that there are 3 legal definitions of Citizen.”

No we don’t. We recognize that there are either BORN citizens or that there are NATURALIZED citizens.

We recognize that one may be a born citizen under several different birth circumstances. These different circumstance are NOT each create a separate definition of citizen.

One of those circumstances is birth in the US to 2 citizen parents. A vast majority of BORN citizens are born with this exact circumstance of birth. Why can’t you understand this? BTW as The TROLL pointed out US CODE 1401 lists the different circumstances that would result in “BORN CITIZENSHIP.” Included in this list is those born in the US to 2 citizen parents.

All born and naturalized citizens share the same Rights/ Responsibilities EQUALLY. There are no “Classes” of citizenship in the United States.

Only one form of BORN CITIZENSHIP is eligible to become President. No Naturalized citizens are eligible to become President. ONLY Citizens born in the US to 2 citizen parents are eligible to be President. That eligibility requirement does NOT create another definition of citizenship. A NBC IS a BORN CITIZEN. One whose circumstance of birth makes him eligible to be President.

Cruz has multiple “citizenships,” Canadian, Cuban, and US. He is not Eligible and therefore ultimately not Electable.

Since you disagree Please list the Presidents, born after the Constitution was in effect, that were NOT born in the US to 2 citizen parents. You have over 200 years worth of presidents to look over.


244 posted on 04/26/2016 4:02:40 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry Bear formily known as Ursus Arctos Horrilibis (or U.A. Californicus))
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To: Forty-Niner; ROCKLOBSTER

Hmmm, I thought FortyNiner was done with this and wouldn’t reply anymore. It’s OK to change your mind. Both you and Rock Lobster have clearly laid out why you think the way you do. I’ve pointed out what the current working legal definition is, which you disagree with. It was never my intention to try to persuade you to change your minds. As a matter of fact, I believe my comment was that there are folks (like you) that wouldn’t change their minds if the heavens opened up and the founding fathers themselves disagreed with you.

Now that we’ve all spoken our piece there is nothing to be gained by simply restating the same thing over and over in different ways. No one is changing their mind on this because of this conversation.

BTW, while none of us have gone to who we support in the primaries it’s a pretty good bet that you both support Trump. I hope that he’s successful in hitting the magic number before the convention so this argument doesn’t continue. My opinion is that Cruz would do a better job at following the Constitution and as such be better for our country, but Trump is my second choice. As such I’ll happily vote for him if he gets the nomination.


248 posted on 04/28/2016 5:05:05 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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