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Is There Not Cause to Fight for Conservatism?
Conservative Review ^ | 04/20/16 | David Serenda

Posted on 04/20/2016 6:52:40 PM PDT by writer33

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To: Secret Agent Man
Destroying the uniparty is what this is all about.

That seems to have become some kind of mantra, but it's what the psyops guys call "glittering generality".

What exactly is "the uniparty", what is the plan for "destroying" it, and what does a successful destruction look like?

61 posted on 04/21/2016 5:58:56 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Mariner

>>supports open, unfair trade, no borders and free import of labor, endless foreign wars when we have no strategic interest at stake...and worships at the alter of corrupt politics.

Well said. It’s like seeing your sister become a whore. You wish she hadn’t. You’d help her come back if she wanted to. But you know that you will probably have to ID her corpse first. “Principled conservative” shysters like Cruz are just a really nice pimp who convinces her that her career as a sex worker is respectable.


62 posted on 04/21/2016 7:15:22 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: tacticalogic

What exactly is “the uniparty”, what is the plan for “destroying” it, and what does a successful destruction look like?
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Uniparty basically means there’s not a lot of difference between the DNC, and RNC. They both want amnesty, they vote together to pass the omnibus... It’s also the reason some of the big shots (Bill Kristol, Beck, and I think Cruz said they’d prefer Hill to Trump for president).

Destroying the uniparty is almost impossible unless the voters wake up, see what’s happening, and refuse to hand over their money and support to a party that doesn’t care about their values.

A successful destruction would be having 2 political parties to choose from with one of them having the views that are important to us.


63 posted on 04/21/2016 7:48:18 AM PDT by Cats1 (Trump supporter till the bitter end because I don't support thieves)
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To: Mike Darancette

After he already slayed him.


64 posted on 04/21/2016 8:00:42 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it." --Samuel Clemens)
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To: Cats1
A successful destruction would be having 2 political parties to choose from with one of them having the views that are important to us.

I've expressed reservations about Trump's lack of a grasp of the fundamental attributes of our constitutional republic. I've been told that's not important right now, first we have to "destroy the uniparty".

Applying your explanation to those concerns, the answer comes down to "You'll have it when you get it, now STFU."

65 posted on 04/21/2016 8:05:51 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: jpsb

Trump has not been called “slime’ Garbage to be kicked to the curb, a vicious... If he has it is rare. I don’t see Levin’s stuff or “propaganda” posted one tenth as much as nasty Cruz stuff. I can’t see that Levin stuff as dangerous. I don’t care for Ann Coulter she is a Trump supporter. I think we have worse things to worry about than trying to censure. The change of currency for one. Of course this is Jim’s cite so he is free to do whatever he wants.


66 posted on 04/21/2016 8:11:30 AM PDT by RightLady (God Bless the USA)
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To: tacticalogic

I thought we were talking about destroying the uniparty, not about ‘the fundamental attributes of our constitutional republic’.

~~If we’re talking about Trump’s knowledge of how the government works, he’s probably not as ‘up’ on it as Cruz... but then he’s not a politician. He’s tough though, smart, and loves America. I think I’ll trust him to do the best he can.


67 posted on 04/21/2016 8:42:35 AM PDT by Cats1 (Trump supporter till the bitter end because I don't support thieves)
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To: Cats1
I thought we were talking about destroying the uniparty, not about ‘the fundamental attributes of our constitutional republic’.

If the "destruction of the uniparty" is not complete until we have a political party who's candidates support our values, then one should be inextricably linked to the other.

68 posted on 04/21/2016 8:49:08 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

I wouldn’t use inextricably...

Lets try this: I hope the GOP loses enough American supporters that they have to replace them with the illegals they want to give amnesty to. It’ll be too late then, but it will be clear to the American people what the GOP stands for.


69 posted on 04/21/2016 9:01:42 AM PDT by Cats1 (Trump supporter till the bitter end because I don't support thieves)
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To: Cats1
Lets try this: I hope the GOP loses enough American supporters that they have to replace them with the illegals they want to give amnesty to. It’ll be too late then, but it will be clear to the American people what the GOP stands for.

That's not going to give us a party with candidates that support fundamental constitutional (republican) values. Given that as a requirement for the goal of "destroying the uniparty", it still won't have been accomplished, so those values still won't be important in choosing the next candidate. The strategy and stated objectives seem to produce a scenario where "feel good" social issues must come before fundamental constitutional issues, and will continue to for the foreseeable future.

70 posted on 04/21/2016 9:15:38 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

That’s not going to give us a party with candidates that support fundamental constitutional (republican) values.
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No it won’t, but your dream of having a party that supports ‘fundamental constitutional republican values’ is only going to work if the voters fight for it, and the party graciously (sarcasm is intended) allows it to happen.


71 posted on 04/21/2016 9:34:11 AM PDT by Cats1 (Trump supporter till the bitter end because I don't support thieves)
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To: Cats1
No it won’t, but your dream of having a party that supports ‘fundamental constitutional republican values’ is only going to work if the voters fight for it, and the party graciously (sarcasm is intended) allows it to happen.

Seems a perfect Catch-22 scenario. We'll only get it if we fight for it (as part of "destroying the uniparty"), but we're supposed to stand down on that issue until after we've "destroyed the uniparty".

72 posted on 04/21/2016 9:42:13 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Multitasking is a good thing so no standing down... If possible do both at the same time. ;)

~~In the end everyone has to make their own decisions on what they think is best. Good luck with your choice.


73 posted on 04/21/2016 9:56:34 AM PDT by Cats1 (Trump supporter till the bitter end because I don't support thieves)
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To: Cats1; writer33; Secret Agent Man
Multitasking is a good thing so no standing down... If possible do both at the same time. ;)

Then it can be and is about more than just "destroying the uniparty".

74 posted on 04/21/2016 10:02:20 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

It is not a mantra.

It is going to be an ongoing process of purging out rinos, gopers, vichy republicans, stealth democrats, whatever you want to call them,

From the entrenched leadership, and then their coward enablers.

Your statement of when will it be done is why we are in our current mess today. It will never be done, because they will never stop infiltrating us. Our side as no idea about consistent vigilence. People like you want an end date. There is no end date. People like you are not willing to fight forever. You do not have to do the exact same job forever, but you can fight forever in different ways and levels.

And I am not going to sit here and explain it to you.


75 posted on 04/21/2016 10:03:11 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: tacticalogic

Believe what you want. When the Republicans grant amnesty to millions of illegals and then start trying to compete with the Dems for their votes, they won’t be interested in consistent conservatives.


76 posted on 04/21/2016 10:10:27 AM PDT by Cats1 (Trump supporter till the bitter end because I don't support thieves)
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To: Secret Agent Man
People like you want an end date.

I never asked for an end date, I asked you to define your terms and specify your objectives.

I am not going to sit here and explain it to you.

If you can't be bothered to explain it, then I sure as hell don't have any reason to support it.

77 posted on 04/21/2016 10:16:45 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Cats1
Believe what you want. When the Republicans grant amnesty to millions of illegals and then start trying to compete with the Dems for their votes, they won’t be interested in consistent conservatives.

I thought that was the plan - deport them and let all the "good ones" come back.

78 posted on 04/21/2016 10:22:32 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Legal immigration is allowed last I checked.


79 posted on 04/21/2016 10:31:16 AM PDT by Cats1 (Trump supporter till the bitter end because I don't support thieves)
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To: writer33

The Conservative movement threw away nationalism and America first common sense a long time ago. They bought off on Bush’s NWO and glowBULLism. It is their own fault.


80 posted on 04/21/2016 10:34:57 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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