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As far as I'm concerned, the phenomenon of Trump (and, for that matter, Cruz) was made possible by the GOP Establishment. Their utter failure in governance over the past 18 years (since the ouster of Newt Gingrich as Speaker) has utterly ruined the trust of their base voters.

I do not like Trump for who he is and who he has been. I do not like Cruz for what he has evolved into. But I would gladly have either man than anybody who has ANYTHING to do with the "establishment." Regardless of what happens during the remainder of the primaries, during the Republican convention, or the general election, if the Republican Party is smashed there will be a victory of sorts.

The GOP needs to go the way of the Whigs and a party dedicated to moral standards and truly Constitutionally-limited government needs to rise up from the ashes of the GOP. I do not think that Trump is the man to carry out that transformation...even in his current rhetoric, he is showing himself to be "big government" (just "better government to make America Great Again"). Cruz, through the primary crucible, has proven that he is not up to the task nor will he ever be up to the task. But we are now at the point where, if either man wins the nomination, it will be the end of the establishment. And if the nomination is stolen, the party will utterly implode.

1 posted on 04/20/2016 5:54:03 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley
I agree, I would gladly vote for either one, but it is clear that the type of voters attracted to Trump are just as fratricidal as the GOP establishment. Trump is setting himself up for a colossal collapse of support by burning so many bridges within the party he claims to be a part of.

I trust Trump as much as I trust fox guarding a chicken and those who believe his speeches today, or totally ignorant to his past deeds, behaviors and DNC funding.

2 posted on 04/20/2016 5:58:25 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: markomalley

Good post. It’s strange we haven’t seen more of this.

But this is unacceptable. You must invariably really not dig one of these stiffs and be really enthusiastic for the other, and get attacked for the one you admit to not liking. It’s the way these things are supposed to be done.

Freegards


3 posted on 04/20/2016 6:05:30 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: markomalley

I find it extremely refreshing to have a good man like Donald Trump running for office. His politically unpolished demeanor endears tens of millions of freedom loving Americans who desire a real restoration of American principles to this fallen nation. I admire his courage and perseverance, as well as, his obvious intention to serve the people. I appreciate so much his moral clarity by not allowing special interest funding of his campaign and am so grateful his showing the nation that the huge money is not needed by utilizing our news media as it really intended...to disperse information.


4 posted on 04/20/2016 6:06:49 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: markomalley

You would take”either man” but Cruz will “never be up to the task?”


7 posted on 04/20/2016 6:14:55 AM PDT by subterfuge (TED CRUZ FOR POTUS!)
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To: markomalley
I want to point out that Trump came in third last night in NY. Behind Sanders.

All that puffery that Trump could bring new people to the polls and put even democrat NY into play in the general election is just pure BS.

8 posted on 04/20/2016 6:15:31 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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An utterly inexperienced politician, who describes our rights and privileges as particular to us as Americans rather than universal moral mandates..<<<<<<<

Universal moral mandates????? In whose world???

The last time I checked a history book, the United States Constitution and Bill of Rights was developed and instituted in the united States of America, for Americans BY Americans!!

These are the basic governing documents and principles by which OUR government was founded, and by which traitors have and are seeking to water down and abolish.

Trump is not an odd man..obviously as most Americans relate to his reminder of who WE are as a nation, and what we’ve lost.

The “phenomenon” is ignorant and error-filled writings such as the article has provided.

Let’s see how well these so-called “universal moral mandates” fly in the middle east, or even in Belgium and Paris a few weeks ago where people must submit to being murdered by Islam and not permitted to defend themselves.

The ACTUAL universal moral mandates are those which demand people forget what freedom is, and to bend over for the ungreased lies being forced on people who know better by those refusing to pick up a freaking history book.


11 posted on 04/20/2016 6:19:43 AM PDT by PrairieLady2 (Choose Cruz...and looze.)
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An utterly inexperienced politician, who describes our rights and privileges as particular to us as Americans rather than universal moral mandates, would be rejected by both parties at any other time in the modern era.///

Conservative commentators like Levin preach how the founders never intended the country to be ruled by a permanent political class. Instead, private individuals were to set aside their livelihoods, participate in govt for a time, then go back to private life.

Then when it happens, they oppose it.

Sorry, Levin. You might have had James Madison in mind but it seems you got Sam Adams.


14 posted on 04/20/2016 6:25:05 AM PDT by Ceebass ( Ted Cruz = Thad Cochran)
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The article does an excellent job at describing Trump's biggest virtue as a candidate. We really need someone willing to poke the eye of the fascist left, because there is great potential strength is openly defying those norms. I called out some "white privilege" spouters by saying such a privilege was nothing compared to black/female privilege, which amounts to having a built in excuse for any failure, and a license to make asinine arguments without anyone calling them on it.

But the article also ignores his biggest downside, which is that he directs his vulgarianism indiscriminately. While tens of millions of Americans -- likely a majority - openly or silently applaud his battle against leftist PC, he loses a great many when he does things like the Heidi Cruz tweet, or the juvenile "Lyin' Ted", "Little Marco", etc. comments. He could have been the leader of such a movement from within the right. Instead, he's a movement of one, and that's not enough. He's alienated potential allies to the point where they actually line up against him on issues where they may have been willing to ally with him.

Some very good things about Trump, but he's got Shakespeare-sized fatal character flaws.

16 posted on 04/20/2016 6:26:26 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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there is nothing intellectual about Trump. He is as dumb as a stump. He is just a Democrat pretending to be a Repubican. And those who say he is Reagan are delusional. Trump actually was against Reagan Tax cuts. But then again, that is just one of many aspects that prove he’s a Democrat through and through. It is hilarious that so called Republicans on here are supporting a liberal NY City Democrat for President. Hell has truly frozen over!

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/04/19/video-trump-trashes-reagan-tax-cuts-as-democratcalled-expert-witness-in-1991-n2151131


24 posted on 04/20/2016 6:46:36 AM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Trump is a fraud and his supporters getting gas lighted and they are too emotional to see it.)
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To: markomalley
Like many have, I have given up on the GOP.

They've been heinous for quite a while now, but have still functioned as the lesser evil to more or less counter the final evil of the demonrats.

My perpetual hope has been a fully repaired and Constitutionally remodeled GOP that could save the nation and also pull the demonrats back from the fire.

Unfortunately, the GOP cast as the opposition party is an illusion for the base to feed on.

It's their Uniparty's "good politician/bad politician" variation of the ol' "good cop/bad cop" routine.

It worked on we, the perps, a few times, but we're used to it now and the gag has grown old, boring and tiresome. We're done jumping that shark.

In fact, speaking of "fundamental transformation", things here in the good old US of A have had an "Under New Ownership" feel since 9/11 and perhaps there is some truth to that feeling? That would explain a great deal.

Regardless, the Republican party has/had a function to fulfill.

If the GOPe can't or won't fulfill its purpose, another party will follow the GOP's example and rise up to take its place.

Nothing is too big to fail, especially not a political party that plays its base.

33 posted on 04/20/2016 7:15:07 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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If you are citing the Federalist, the message will always be:

Vote Libertarian!

They have always wanted to cede the battleground in the culture wars.

34 posted on 04/20/2016 7:30:08 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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Trump scares the left because he absolutely will not be silenced. The usually Leftist attacks of ‘racist, sexist, unevolved, ignorant’ leave no mark.

The tool of political correctness is brushed off. Protests are yawn-inducing, and 24/7 media attacks ignored.

He has not yet used a bully pulpit to push his agenda. This is all on defense, and he continues to be strong.

Sitting in the White House, selecting his Supreme Court Justice Ted Cruz, and what will the Left do that they haven’t already done without success? Nothing. They have nothing.

Trump is the only person strong against all of these other forces. Nobody else can do it or wants to do it.


51 posted on 04/20/2016 7:55:10 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Trump Train)
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Ah, yes. Donald Trump - the pro-Planned Parenthood, pro-LGBT, TWO Corinthians “Cultural” Warrior.


64 posted on 04/20/2016 8:33:50 AM PDT by Sideshow Bob (#nevertrump)
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... do not like Trump for who he is and who he has been. I do not like Cruz for what he has evolved into. But I would gladly have either man than anybody who has ANYTHING to do with the "establishment." Regardless of what happens during the remainder of the primaries, during the Republican convention, or the general election, if the Republican Party is smashed there will be a victory of sorts. The GOP needs to go the way of the Whigs ...

Painfully honest markomalley... you're right on one important level - "These are the times that try men's souls." And victory might be in defeat...

72 posted on 04/20/2016 9:09:39 AM PDT by GOPJ (If GOPe rules are rigged to steal votes from citizens it's time to walk away from this party.)
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To: markomalley

An excellent article that based on the comments here seems to have fallen on deaf ears. The right has no chance if it doesn’t defeat PC; eventually conservatism itself will be deemed hate speech and banned from the public square. Trump is only GOP candidate who’s even battling within this arena.


75 posted on 04/20/2016 11:24:43 AM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: onyx; Jane Long; xzins; Windflier; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker; RitaOK; DoughtyOne; Jim Robinson; ..

This is long, and great and worth the time.

Read it all, you’ll be glad you did.


79 posted on 04/20/2016 4:18:04 PM PDT by Lakeshark (One time Cruz supporter who now prefers Trump. Yes, there are good reasons.)
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Well, no. If that’s what we need, it’s not him. Like a lot of wealthy people Donald Trump lives above those cultural conflicts. He’s not above making comments about political correctness, but he’s no culture warrior. Trump’s success at the polls has as much to do with a deeper weariness with culture wars as it does with a surface reaction against political correctness. I’m not saying that’s a bad thing — or a good thing — but I think Mytheos is deceiving himself and taking Donald Trump for something he isn’t and never claimed to be.


81 posted on 04/20/2016 4:25:15 PM PDT by x
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Donald Trump supports Planned Parenthood and today attacked the Republican platform on abortion. He also gave the left a gift win his leftist conman impersonation of their delusions of pro-life positions, by saying that women should be prosecuted.

Donald Trump blamed Pamela Gellar for the Islamist attemped assassination in Texas.
Donald Trump has never once spoken of religious liberty.
Donald Trump today come out in support of Trannies in the bathroom.

Donald Trump is a PC thug taking you rubes for a ride, while destroying the Conservative movement.

87 posted on 04/21/2016 2:56:02 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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