Posted on 04/16/2016 5:43:18 PM PDT by bobsunshine
Donald Trump is set to win West Virginia but GOP elites will likely give the delegates to Ted Cruz anyway.
Its the latest state where Cruz will lose but garner more delegates than Donald Trump. Cruz supporters call this a good ground game. The Politico reported: Donald Trump has a new enemy in the fight for national convention delegates: the alphabet.
Trump is well-positioned for a resounding victory in West Virginias May 10 primary, but his win will be accompanied by a delegate selection process stacked in favor of people with last names at the beginning of the alphabet rather than his most committed supporters.
Its a quirk of West Virginias mind-bogglingly complex delegate election process that has the Trump campaign on red alert and seems likely to leave the mogul with weaker support at the national convention than hes expected to earn in the states primary. Its yet another convoluted primary system likely to add fuel to Trumps complaints that the rules of the Republican nomination process are rigged.
(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...
“...Its a quirk of West Virginias mind-bogglingly complex delegate election process that has the Trump campaign on red alert and seems likely to leave the mogul with weaker support at the national convention than hes expected to earn in the states primary. Its yet another convoluted primary system likely to add fuel to Trumps complaints that the rules of the Republican nomination process are rigged....
...Its also bad for Trump because even if he wins the popular vote in a landslide, how that support translates into delegates depends on his supporters ability to navigate a complicated, arcane and confusing voting system the results of which are an open question.”
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“...yet another convoluted primary system likely to add fuel to Trumps complaints that the rules of the Republican nomination process are rigged...”
Folks, please review the sample ballot at this link and tell me why in the hell anyone would think it favors Cruz. And why in hell would folks say this is “rigged against Trump”. The writer of this article is simply spreading FUD.
No where. Trump train rolls into Cleveland with required number, 1st ballot vote, Cruz limps back to his Senate seat with an also ran groups, a re-election loss and eventually, obscurity (but probably a seven figure lawyer job at Goldman Sachs).
You and so many others here will have put out more effort attacking Cruz than hillary bill or any other genuinely anti-conserviatve advocates.
Cruz is a great man and far more legitimate than Trump.
Your post does not reduce my respect for Cruz.
The lack of substance from his attackers about his political positions makes it clear to me Trump should not be the nominee.
A “joke” that’s beating the most insider of all politicians. Cruz is about to get schlonged again starting Tuesday and running through June 7. It’s going to be fun to watch.
How is hanging on until you’re beaten making mischief? If a football team is down 2 scores with 2 min left do they just walk off the field? (Well, if it’s the Browns...). My point is this - if Trump wants to win, then get enough delegates to win outright. Why on earth would Cruz just give up when he still has a shot? Because Mr. Apple wants him to????
You keep posting as though your candidate of choice has a prayer. He does not and will not ever be the nominee.
Get over it..the is toast...Texas toast.
I don’t know if he knows it but you are right. Staying in once you have no path to the nomination is political suicide.
Me too. I have come to despise Cruz.
There IS DAMNED well something WE can do about it, change the exeptions on ALL paychecks to absolutely break even!!! Or even better change the exemptions so you owe put the money you save aside and STARVE THE BEAST FOR A YEAR!!!!
Unlike scruzebots,I am not in an obsessive slobbering over zealous fledgling love connection with trump. I do not know any trump supporter that is obsessed with the man,you cannot say that about the scruzers.
If we can’t control one political party, what makes you think we control another?
LOL....you don't read FR very much if you think your statement is true.
Is it legal??? Apparently...Is it fair to the American citizens??? Nope...We have found out the GOP does not represent We The People of the Constitution...And that's how we get stuck with these disgusting politicians like Romney and McCain and Cruz...
Funny you should mention the Constitution....which is the reason it ticks me off when we get this crap about "democratic/populist elections" from a Republican candidate.
We are a Republic, per the Constitution. Remember our "To the Republic, for which it stands" pledge?
The Republican party originally took it's name as a "sign" that they valued that system of government over "mob rule" (or Democracies) which the framers tried to protect us from since they believed that Democracies destroyed individual liberties....
As such, under that system, all 50 states have the "right" to set up their primaries however they want. The Republican "headquarters" can try to nudge those states in a certain direction.....but the people of each state, who are engaged in the process "year round", instead of just thinking about it in an election year, have the final "say so" about what will happen in their state.
Are all of those states set up to "defeat" anyone who isn't an "insider"? I don't see how Ronald Reagan would have ever become President if that was true. That theory also seems to fly in the face of reason, since the top two nominees, from a large roster of candidates, are "not" insiders.
Do they "lean" that way? Probably. I remember some changes made in Texas that were in response to something Ron Paul's delegates were trying to do at the convention...but I don't remember the specifics right off hand.
You asked.....is it fair to the American citizens?
Why wouldn't it be? Each one of us has the freedom to get involved in our state processes, from the county...to the state...and on to the national level.
That same system is how the grassroots groups, like the Tea Party, have been able to get their people into the "hallowed halls" of Washington to actually start the process of reclaiming our REPUBLIC from the people who have forgotten what that means.
Yet ineligible.
Nope....they supported a "Republic" form of government...not a Democracy.
You're playing on the wrong team if you don't understand that.
Our Forefathers wouldnt have a put up with this for a second.
Too funny. It was their idea..........
Systemic corruption and career politicians were not the Founders' idea. And you're wrong about "it was their idea".
They were concerned about democratic excess, of course, but they also specifically despised the notion of party and factions.
So best to present the full picture, not your cherry-picked version of it.
Seeing how the People nowadays are subject to the whims of the two-faced, systematically corrupt Uniparty system, the Founders would doubtless be furious...
Actually, the general public was never intended to directly participate in the presidential elections. Their participation was by electing the members of their state legislatures. The state legislatures (the "establishment", the "insiders") would select the members of the Electoral College, who would cast the votes for President and Vice President. There were no primaries, no caucuses, no general election. The Founders actually saw a great danger in allowing direct democracy to be a part of the process of selecting the President and even the members of the Senate. The only Federal office that the Constitution envisioned being elected by a direct vote of the people was the House of Representatives.
Your lack of historical understanding is distressing, but explains a lot about your illogical arguments...
Which part is crap?
the founders would have already started hunting them down like dogs and shooting them in the head...
or trying them for treason and then publicly hanging them by the neck until dead.
perhaps we have a greater sense of morality... or perhaps we just don’t know when to say when.
Too many trumpers want to abandon states rights.
This is the first time EVER that people have been concerned about how states selected their delegates.
And now, because Trump didn’t bother to put boots on the ground or hire a good staff, all of a sudden some nebulous someone is supposed to set the rules for primaries in every state.
If this system is not the will of the people, the people in each state can correct it. It may involve getting off their butts but it can be done.
There has been nothing unfair done so far.
Trump has failed to get with the process and wants to blame everything and everyone but himself.
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