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To: nathanbedford
I'm truly surprised at you. I know how long you've been here and some of the things you've stood up for and with. You are one of the last people here who would be taken in by this grifter.

As for me? The scales fell from my eyes quite early in this exercise. I'm still not sure if I will vote for Trump but I sure appreciate what he has done to expose the RNC/GOP-e chicanery.

110 posted on 04/13/2016 1:52:38 PM PDT by j.argese (/s tags: If you have a mind unnecessary. If you're a cretin it really doesn't matter, does it?)
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To: j.argese
[Your statement to me, or rather question, is evidently made in goodwill and therefore is atypical and deserves a decent response. I set forth below a reply I filed in response to a similar reply]:

General Rhetorical Commet: Hate seeing people go after each other like this. Just ignore it.

I have tried throughout to avoid attacking fellow conservatives although I have vehemently opposed Donald Trump but I have limited my criticisms on the whole to the candidate and not to his supporters individually unless it was necessary to defend myself which I always undertake to do with vigor. However, immediately before receiving your advice which normally would be well taken, I got this from jpsb:

How does it feel to be an establishment stooge in bed with Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, Lindsey Gram, Paul Ryan, Carly Fiorina, Nicky Haley, Golden Sachs, The Club for Growth and the entire globalist GOPe mega donor class against those of us fighting with Trump to preserve the USA?

This comment alone would not provoke me except that it comes in a train of personal invective. At some point one has to respond to the pure venom incessantly directed at anyone who dares oppose Donald Trump. I choose to do so now by observing that there can be no reconciliation, at least in the primary season, to Donald Trump.

Let me tell you what motivates me to oppose Donald Trump.

Donald Trump is a bully, a coward, a mountebank, a narcissist, a serial liar and an existential threat to conservatism. He is unworthy of the highest office in the world but I have committed to vote for him in the event that he secures the nomination only because his opponents consist of a felonious bitch and a self described socialist. Trump is marginally better than a Saul Alinsky felon and a self-confessed Marxist, even so he is an ignoramus concerning the Constitution and a risky psyche to put in charge of hydrogen bombs. He Is an economic troglodyte who is liable to pitch the country into a Great Depression with ham-handed trade wars.

He has been on both sides of every issue dear to conservatives which means he has at one time or another been wrong on every issue. He is entirely unencumbered by a coherent political philosophy and so rebounds and ricochets from issue to issue and from side to side on issues on an ad hoc basis choosing in stentorian tones that which he in his selfishness perceives will advance Donald Trump. An opportunist without any party loyalty, Donald Trump has been a Democrat, an Independent and now claims to be a Republican. His biography is replete with scandal, social climbing, sleaze, divorce, bankruptcy, fraud, bribery of officials, association with known felons and mafioso, hiring of illegal immigrants and importing of foreign goods for resale in America. Donald Trump made part of his fortune with government deals working inside the system but now shamelessly claims to be an outsider. The man is the walking embodiment of hypocrisy on the hoof. The Donald is an insufferable comb-over egomaniac whose repugnant personality will hinder him from serving the domestic causes you think he believes in and his obnoxious egoism will only antagonize our allies as well is our enemies abroad.

Rather than edify and inspire the people as the leader of a great people and a great nation should, he is a vulgarian who degrades us all and humiliates us in the eyes of the world. He is not just a blight on our politics but he is a blight on our culture, our civility, and our self-respect. He is intellectually shallow and emotionally petulant. He encourages violence and inspires the very worst behavior from his supporters who ape his manifold character flaws and attack ad hominem Trump's critics rather than deal forthrightly like grown-ups with real and serious issues which confront us.

His very success, as limited as it is demographically in the primary season, nevertheless is harmful to conservatism because it's tells earnest young conservatives recently elected that they cannot trust the conservative base to stand by them if they risk their brand-new careers to oppose the powerful, elitist establishment. They will look at what the sunshine conservative Trump supporters have done to Ted Cruz and, if they are smart, they will play a selfish game.

He will lead us into a devastating defeat in the general election because he has antagonized virtually every recognized voting segment of our society with the possible exception of some portion of white males. He pretends that winning 40% in primaries of a Republican Party that consists at best of 40% of the population is somehow indicative of an ability to overcome in a general election the worst negatives in modern memory making him the most hated presidential candidate of the modern era. If nominated he will almost certainly lose the election and generate devastating losses down ticket in his wake enervating conservatism perhaps forever. If he somehow wins the election, the conservative movement might find itself much the worse than if he had lost.

I oppose Donald Trump to maintain my self-respect.


113 posted on 04/13/2016 9:57:19 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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