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To: patlin

No, because one born out of the country to an American citizen is a citizen of the US at birth...a natural born citizen.

He never had to be naturalized because he was a citizen at birth...what part of that do you need assistance with. That is the law, it has been the law since the first congress, and it comports with the Constitution.


115 posted on 04/10/2016 9:33:22 AM PDT by mak5
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To: mak5

So King George himself knocks up American citizen and you believe the framers would consider that child a NBC able to hold the highest office in the land? Come on that doesnt even pass the smell test. Heck that is EXACTLY what they meant to prevent!


132 posted on 04/10/2016 9:46:36 AM PDT by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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To: mak5
No, because one born out of the country to an American citizen is a citizen of the US at birth.

Sounds definitive. Too bad that is simply NOT true. Besides, the question of citizen vs. natural born citizen is a real distinction. There are lots of citizens who are not NBC citizens, but there are no NBC's who are not also citizens (unless they expatriated after the age of 18).

The Constitution is clear on this issue, and Ted doesn't fit it. Sorry for your loss.

133 posted on 04/10/2016 9:46:42 AM PDT by lafroste
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To: mak5

The 1790 Act of Congress WAS a NATURALIZATION Act ONLY! Cruz relies heavily on this repealed Act of Congress because it the language in it ‘natural born’ was unconstitutional in nature and thus it has NEVER again appeared in any Act of Congress on Immigration & Naturalization.

Ted Cruz is a citizen per the 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act, a.k.a. the McCarran-Walter Act (An act to revise the laws relating to immigration, naturalization, and nationality; and for other purposes)

The nationality laws were revised, therefore, those changes in the law in this act that afforded US citizenship to Ted Cruz because his mother was a US citizen, regardless of the fact that his father was an alien, is the only reason Cruz can claim US citizenship. A law passed 163 yrs after the Constitution was ratified does not make Cruz a natural born. His citizenship is by statute, a.k.a. A1, S8, C4, under Congress authority to write uniform rules of naturalization.

Ted Cruz is a naturalized US citizen, period.


232 posted on 04/10/2016 12:16:34 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledgee chosen to participate inthat is - 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: mak5
That is the law, it has been the law since the first congress, and it comports with the Constitution.

It comports with your opinion and that is all it does.

320 posted on 04/10/2016 6:07:49 PM PDT by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't finish a sentence, but he will finish a term.)
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