Posted on 04/10/2016 6:35:37 AM PDT by Kaslin
:: You can’t stop people from being stupid ::
I think all of FR knows this but, it is a good position to start from....but....
:: It is better for activities, like drug use, to allow people to get a little high with regulated substances ::
As another posted has stated, this is simply long-term euthanasia
Again, there is no such thing as “recreational heroin use.
Perhaps you missed my post that you don’t need to sell heroin.
They may very well be seeking slow euthanasia, but we’ve created a situation, because it is so profitable, where the drug users will push highly addictive substances because it is more profitable to do so because of the risk factors involved in doing so.
“I can tell you bluntly, there is no downside,”
I don’t have a solution for the drug problem (short of the way they handle it in Singapore and Malaysia), but I think I can be pretty sure enabling addicts isn’t free of a downside.
The junkies have to get their junk, and they don’t pick it off bushes on the side of the road. Whether they’re getting their drug money through petty crime or violent assaults, society is paying a price for their addiction. Cold-hearted as it may seem, those that were being culled from the herd by overdoses and needle-promoted diseases no longer are in the Vancouver approach. And if there are any who survive after reaching rock-bottom and in desperation seeking help, they’re less-likely to do so with the government running a “Needles-R-Us” operation for them.
Back in the hippie days, I remember seeing signs in public restrooms in the Bay Area that said “No Dealing or Shooting Up. Take It Outside.”
Apparently they did.
Well Jonty the drugs could be stopped, just like we could win the war against radical islam. The problem is no one has the will to do what it takes to win that war.
Now, the question is, do we as a people want to live in a society that puts drug dealers to death? That is what it would take to stop drugs from pouring into this country but alas we can’t even execute mass murders let alone a drug dealer.
I want violent torture for those who commit crimes.
Any prohibition against that sort of torture at the state level has only “spiritually” existed by US Supreme Court ruling/description-creep since about 1968.
So, it might be possible to have hot pepper added to an injection, for instance.
The sale of narcotics funds terrorism.
Build the wall, control the border.
Every junkie should be allowed a triple dose of 100% pure stuff. The guberment has confiscated enough of this crap to pass it out that way.
I’d rather stop most of the problem by allowing low level drugs. Most drug users, if they can get a little high, will satisfy themselves with that. Only a comparative few will still move on to illegal harder drugs.
Are things falling apart in Colorado? Is that state having to deal with an influx of heroin and crack since it made marijuana legal?
It is produced in America. You can’t build a wall for that.
I’d end the war on drug users and require treatment instead of jail.
I’d incarcerate drug dealers and charge them with homicide if one of their customers ODs.
I was against this overseas when I heard about it 20 years ago. It has worked better than what we do. It still has problems and I think there will always be problems. That approach seems to have fewer problems and preserves the Constitutional Rights of our nation.
Instead, we pretend what we do works, force it underground at the expense of ridiculous cost - police state and dollars.
Supermax isolation is a safe place......
Citation needed.
Drugs are a cultural and spiritual problem. People get high because it is a short-cut to pleasure. We live in a society of short-cuts and pleasure seeking. Legalizing weed won't fix that. The real solution is long, hard, and cultural in nature. That's why no one wants to do it... and people suggest short-cut fixes like legalization...
This is nothing more than enabling.
I will use Colorado as a citation. Are people towards harder drugs enmasse, a few don’t count, or are they generally satisfying themselves with low level, but legal, highs?
Are they? "Citation needed" signifies a need for you to provide proof of your assertion. With documentation and quantification if you wish the response to be persuasive. You answered with another question...
the situation requires the wisdom of a Salomon, which leaves me WAY out the decision making process.
Having gone through klonopin withdrawals once (I take them for head injury problems) because I finished them about three days early, I can empathize with these people.
I had some bad nights and took an extra pill thinking no biggie some nights that month. Well, I stared at the clock for three days waiting to fill my next script.
muscle pain, twitches, nightmares, cold sweats, confusion, basically hell.
I NEVER took more than the daily dosage again!!!
Once you go through it, you REALLY feel for people that are going through 40x worse with heroin withdrawal!!
Poor souls.
Colorado is not a success story.
“What about a safe place for ladies who have to use the rest room?”
Transphobe! Why all the hate? </s>
“One of the reasons for fatherlessness in the black community, which has been disastrous, was because of long jail sentences and lifelong criminal records because of recreational drug use.”
That is a lie to move the blame from their own criminal acts(often unrelated to “recreational drug use”) to the shoulders of white people. Drug addiction drives people to murderous lengths to secure their next fix; the addicts showing up in these “safe spaces” obtained the funds to secure their drugs somewhere...
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