Trade Benefits America

Townhall.com ^ | April 8, 2016 | Linda Chavez

[DonaldC]

“But think, for a moment, about what raising tariffs on these countries’ goods would mean for the average American,”

Eventually, people need to realize the cheap ride is not good. Free trade has done nothing but put Americans out of work and line the pockets of multinationals as they pocket the difference.

[Uncle Miltie]

I’ll buy and sell freely.

Who, by name, is so wise and good that they should supplant my judgement with their own on penalty of taxation for the leviathan state?

[DoughtyOne]

It’s amazing the condition we’re in having lost multiple tens of millions of jobs, and you still have folks fronting for the global back-stabbers.

[DugwayDuke]

“Who, by name, is so wise and good that they should supplant my judgement with their own on penalty of taxation for the leviathan state?”

Why Mister Donald Trump is obviously so much smarter than you are.

[SpaceBar]

Meanwhile, mandatory minimun wages are making overseas manufacturing more attractive. This writer applauds all the cheap crap we buy, and minimizes the lost domestic manufacturing sector, and writes it off as due to ‘more efficient methods’.

[DugwayDuke]

“Free trade has done nothing but put Americans out of work and line the pockets of multinationals as they pocket the difference.”

The ones who have been “pocketing the difference” are the average Americans who have seen the quality of life increased by the availability of low cost and high quality goods.

[Uncle Miltie]

By what method of divination does Mr. Trump know my mind better than I?

Or are you merely proposing my slavemaster?

[Will88]

Who, by name, is so wise and good that they should supplant my judgement with their own on penalty of taxation for the leviathan state?

So, you prefer the higher income taxes and assorted fees to support the welfare state which grows bigger and more expensive with each new "free trade" deal the US enters?

You're paying for it in the form of taxes, whether you choose to recognize it or not. But, current arrangements do enable you to foist trillions onto future generations.

[DonaldC]

“The ones who have been “pocketing the difference” are the average Americans who have seen the quality of life increased by the availability of low cost and high quality goods.”

I’ll be watching to see if the price of Oreo’s or Carrier Air Conditioners goes down with eager anticipation.

[Uncle Miltie]

Unable to answer a direct question.

Fail.

[Kaslin]

If those idiots think that the minimum wage increase helps the workers they better think again. Instead of getting higher paychecks the hours are cut and as a result there is no wage increase but often a reduction.

[eyeamok]

Education on the issue is sorely lacking.

Under Statement of the year!!

We live in a Country today that is built entirely upon CREDIT and Credit Money. All Federal Reserve Notes and Credits were LOANED in to society with Interest Attached. This in and of itself requires a Mathematical THEFT OF VALUE(inflation) on an Ever Increasing Basis just to stay even. ANd if you want Growth, the math grows exponentially. There is NO Way out of an Economy built entirely on CREDIT.

We need these Trade Deals to help MASK the Real effects of a Pure Fiat Currency using fractional reserve banking. Otherwise the whole thing would have collapsed a long time ago.

[jdege]

It doesn’t take thousands of pages of semi-secret documents to create a free trade agreement, if the agreement is actually creating free trade.

In other words, free trade is a wonderful idea. What we’re getting in these “free trade” agreements is something else, entirely.

[DannyTN]

The U.S. did great for over 180 years with high import tariffs. Our founding fathers viewed them as a tax on foreigners wanting to sell into our markets.

We pay for cheap imports multiple times. Once when we buy the import. When we pay extra taxes to support the unemployed Americans. When we pay extra taxes because those unemployed Americans aren’t paying their share of taxes anymore. And when we pay extra taxes because we had to borrow money from China because of the unemployed Americans and are now paying interest.

[expat_panama]

...supplant my judgment with their own on penalty of taxation for the leviathan state?

Well said.  

Problem is we got a mob of crazed fanatics that have renounced the use and authority of reason.   They say their silly "trade deficit" numbers ship jobs overseas and when they see how jobs increase w/ the TD they say all the numbers are meaningless.   They say the TD numbers mean money leaves the U.S. and when you show them that it doesn't they say the gov't stats are all lies --all except the TD.  This is actually a problem we've had for hundreds of years:

“To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.”

― Thomas Paine, The American Crisis

[DugwayDuke]

“By what method of divination does Mr. Trump know my mind better than I? Or are you merely proposing my slavemaster?’

I was merely answering your question: “Who, by name, is so wise and good that they should supplant my judgement with their own on penalty of taxation for the leviathan state?”

But, I’m glad your mentioned ‘slavemaster’. Too few recognize that imposing tariffs “to save jobs” is the institution of a limited form of slavery where the consumer is made the slave of the producer. The federal government would choose the industries deemed worthy of protection and institute a system of forced wealth transfer to those industries with sufficient political connections from the majority of the population who are only consumers. Amazingly, some ‘conservatives’ see nothing wrong with using the powers of the federal government to extort wealth from some to give to others.

Tariffs are nothing more than the use of the federal government to institute a system of forced wealth transfer from those who consumer a good to those who produce the good.

[major-pelham]

Washington Lincoln Taft Trump on 1 second of thought.

[DoughtyOne]

Do you or do you not agree that the Free Traders have had their way since 1992?

Is the U. S. better off today? Yes or no?

The excrement coming out of the Free Traders mouths these days, is just utterly damnable.

[Will88]

Unable to answer a direct question.

Fail.

Lol, your question was nothing but a silly exercise in self-indulgence and self-delusion. You are definitely paying for this current trading system that gives us hundreds of billions in trade deficits and increasing long term unemployment, a decreasing worker participation rate, and ever increasing, means tested poverty programs.

Well, if you're a taxpayer that is. You're helping to pay for the part that's not put off on future generations of taxpayers.

The FAIL was you silly evasive, non-response.