Posted on 04/06/2016 3:11:20 PM PDT by nickcarraway
A lawmaker wants to allow California addicts to use heroin, crack and other drugs at supervised facilities to cut down on overdoses, joining several U.S. cities considering establishing the nation's first legal drug-injection sites.
The proposal introduced Tuesday comes as San Francisco, Seattle, New York City and Ithaca, New York, weigh ordinances to set up the facilities, citing the success of a site operating in Canada since 2003.
Third Man Arrested in Hunter Pence Stolen Scooter Case But law enforcement has opposed the move in California, saying it will worsen addiction. And lawmakers seemed reluctant to support it, postponing a committee vote.
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he should supervise it personally, and put the med center next to his house.
Next, he’ll be wanting the state to supply the addicts the drugs...
California has fallen off the edge.....
It’s like the country is being run by children who weren’t parented a day in their lives
If California holds to the pattern of the past fourty years or so, the Legislature will adopt whatever policy is advocated by the most crazy Democrat in the body.
So this will soon be law.
State supply of the drugs soon to follow.
Then legalization.
Then distribution in schools, first to student addicts, and then to student anyones. To do otherwise would be judgmental and stigmatizing.
Think about America circa 1950s & take a look around you now....we all know where this is all heading & it’s not to a good place.
People who are confused if the problem is demand or supply.
I prefer unsupervised.
I have long advocated for free heroin. One catch, every 100 doses is a hot shot. Problem eventually goes away.
Anyone caught selling drugs is immediately strung up so there are few willing to take the chance.
Ah dreams.
Yup, 1950 is a few years before my being aware but by 1960 I was fully engaged. It has been sliding since they did away with school dress codes IMO. It was a small step but the beginning. Once dopes are given the choice to do the right thing, it seems some will opt to do the extreme other and then ostracize those who do not follow suit.
I began college in 63. My school required a jacket and tie and was not coed. in 65 the dress code was “relaxed”. In 66 it became coed. By 67 I did not recognize what passed for “relaxed” dress. Oh, forgot, we had ROTC, mandatory for two years, till 66 when it became an elective. Drip drip drip...
As a cost savings measure, lets give them all of their doses for the month at the beginning of the month, along with their EBT allotment.
It’s likely cheaper to supply every single addict with standardized drugs, food, a cot and addiction counseling than continue paying for the current police state policy that hasn’t reduced drug use at all.
Right now an average addict will steal something like $1000 worth of stuff every day, fence it for $100 and use that money to buy product that cost $10 to make. That’s a loss of $990 for just one addict EVERY SINGLE DAY.
Had a family member whose $20,000 engagement ring was stolen. It was found at a local pawn shop where the thief sold it for $500.
Add the costs of law enforcement, prison, ER visits from dirty drugs/overdoses, costs of violence from dealers, etc, etc. We are definitely losing north of $500k every year for just ONE addict.
PLUS we are losing privacy at breakneck speed because enforcing transactions between consenting adults ALWAYS requires police spying on innocent people. There is no victim to report the crime so they must spy or have random searches.
It’s F’n insane!
All western nations are in various stages of collapse....just a race to the bottom to see who gets there first.
I say a triple dose for each addict.
Assemblywoman Susan Talamantes Eggman (D, Stockton)! This is outrageous coming from a district where crime and drug abuse are the highest in the state and the nation! The murder rate in Stockton puts in on or near the top ten cities in the country.
It’s likely cheaper to supply every single addict with standardized drugs, food, a cot and addiction counseling than continue paying for the current police state policy that hasn’t reduced drug use at all.
Right now an average addict will steal something like $1000 worth of stuff every day, fence it for $100 and use that money to buy product that cost $10 to make. That’s a loss of $990 for just one addict EVERY SINGLE DAY.
Had a family member whose $20,000 engagement ring was stolen. It was found at a local pawn shop where the thief sold it for $500.
“Add the costs of law enforcement, prison, ER visits from dirty drugs/overdoses, costs of violence from dealers, etc, etc. We are definitely losing north of $500k every year for just ONE addict.
PLUS we are losing privacy at breakneck speed because enforcing transactions between consenting adults ALWAYS requires police spying on innocent people. There is no victim to report the crime so they must spy or have random searches.”
Not if they overdose.
“I prefer unsupervised.”
I’d go for a supervised massive overdose, with the state picking up the tab for burial. It would be way cheaper. We live about 50 miles from Stockton. We have a former neighbor whose drug-addled brothers youngest child ( a 19 year old daughter) who also lives there and is hooked on heroin. We are guessing she will be dead in a year or two by either an overdose or by being murdered by a Mexican illegal.
Ithaca’s approach/idea....So law enforcement doesn’t want to continue arresting druggies, where do we go to get back the billions OF OUR DOLLARS spent on the DRUG WARS???
The facility does not supply the drugs - NOT YET, anyway. We’re going to see/hear those who say they can’t afford to buy their own and it’s not fair that others can buy them while they can’t so of course, the government will come to their rescue. These governments are not run by rocket scientists! Their every move is known before they even make it!!!!
DR: Depending on how it’s set up, you’ll go in and you’ll talk to somebody who’s going to help you at the door of the facility to understand what you need. The facility doesn’t provide drugs. There’s no drug selling on the promises, but you have a table or a booth where you can go and sit down and there’ll be a nurse there overseeing what’s happening. If you’re injecting and you run into a problem—you do too much and you start to overdose—there’s a healthcare professional able to respond right away. But more importantly, there’s also all lot of counselling, a lot of other staff there to provide that support and say, ‘listen, we’re here for you.’
MF: Now this plan in Ithaca is not only supervised injection. What are some of the other services they plan to offer that you support?
DR: We’re really interested in the proposal to shift the focus of how law enforcement approaches people who are using drugs. And make law enforcement the tool for good to get people linked to healthcare and social services, instead of just arresting them. It’s part of a broader trend that we’re seeing across the country, where police chiefs are standing up and saying, ‘we can’t arrest our way out of this epidemic. We need to treat this as a health issue.’
This might actually cut down on the number of street addicts and people dying from overdoses. Most of the time such clinics do include counseling and treatment options to help addicts get off the drug.
Due to the crackdown on prescription pain medications I think this country can expect to see an increase in heroin use. Keeping people from dying from laced drugs or drugs that are much stronger then they expect is a decent goal.
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