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Pastors feel exposed without religious freedom law
Dalton Daily Citizen ^ | 3/4/16 | Jill Nolin

Posted on 04/04/2016 7:16:32 AM PDT by barmag25

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To: SubMareener
17 “And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake.

We are seeing more and more of this. 1.6 billion muslims make up one group but the other groups are subtly joining forces with them. The American and European left for example.

21 posted on 04/04/2016 7:49:41 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

States and local jurisdictions give lip service to “religious liberty” for churches and religious organizations, but have just recently invented a new “qualifier” for them: the “ministerial exception.” In other words, if the position in the religious organization isn’t deem to be a pivotal “ministerial” position, which the state will determine, it is subject to all manner of mandates.

This is what happened to Fontbonne Academy in Marxistchusetts, where a Catholic school was barred from refusing to hire a homosexual cafeteria director who represented himself as “married.”

This is but an inroad that will undoubtedly be capitalized in the very near future.


22 posted on 04/04/2016 7:53:12 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: ealgeone
If you won't deal with the politics, it will deal with you.

Yes, a very good variant of the Trotsky quote, and very true.

A church which will not engage the culture is salt which has lost its flavor. Good from nothing and to be thrown out.

23 posted on 04/04/2016 7:54:55 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: NonValueAdded

The Constitution has been usurped, in case you haven’t noticed.


24 posted on 04/04/2016 7:55:51 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: barmag25
While it seems unlikely that Cofield will end up in handcuffs — or that a gay couple would ask him to officiate at their wedding — he and other religious conservatives say they no longer feel safe to express and act on their convictions.

This assertion - that such a turn of events is unlikely - ignores the clear intention of such precedents as the Oregon baker's case - where hundreds of thousands of dollars were demanded by an administrative "court" in reparation for a business owner's adherence to a clearly defined principle of their religion.

It is not unlikely that this situation occurs - it is merely improbable that a pastor's jailing will be the next trampling provided by the homosexual agenda's stampede.

25 posted on 04/04/2016 7:58:13 AM PDT by MortMan (Let's call the push for amnesty what it is: Pedrophilia.)
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To: NonValueAdded

So did the Oregon bakers.


26 posted on 04/04/2016 7:58:52 AM PDT by MortMan (Let's call the push for amnesty what it is: Pedrophilia.)
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To: marron

It is exactly like Germany because they had the mass indoctrination system (Prussian “education”) like John Dewey forced into America. Group “think” creates stupid, irrational, “useful idiots” incapable of critical thought because they “know” nothing important. (All Christian concepts are erased—even the concept of mother and father). Children are totally brainwashed with no understanding of Truth/God or Reality. They believe whatever the State/Hitler states. (No individualism/self-reliance which is destroyed by the socialization/indoctrination system which embeds dependency and emasculates boys (followers only).

It is to remove little children from the Natural Family so all Common Sense and self-reliance can be destroyed and worldview “flipped”-—the artificial institutions can force any emotions/concepts in children like “snow is black” and Boys are Girls when they are removed from the mother/father (Natural Law/Science/Logic) paradigm.

It is why we used to understand how evil “working” mothers were——ones who abandoned their babies to “strangers” to shape and determine their worldview since he would be removed from biology/reality/nature and embed irrational, artificial reality which would embed only UNNATURAL desires and attitudes.

But-—people have been so dumbed down-—and programmed, that Evil is Good and the most dehumanizing, unnatural, filthy use of the body and other human beings is now “Good” and a Natural Right from God.

They destroyed the meaning of Words/Language-—in the public schools system and they program “group think” which is where emotions rule Reason always. We are destroying Western Civilization which was formed because of the Christian Worldview ONLY-—the only rational “faith” in the history of mankind—that which made Slavery, pederasty/homosexuality, polygamy, child sacrifice into “Evil”. It took a thousand years to flip the normal pagan behaviors-—to the Christian Morality-—which created the Age of Reason and Modern Science and the US Constitution-—most perfect, just, free system ever created.

Free Will and Individual Natural Rights from God is a purely Christian concept......socialism/communism, satanism-—all are collective ideologies where individuals can be killed and used in degrading, evil ways always. As Dostoevsky stated: Without God, everything is permissible.


27 posted on 04/04/2016 7:59:34 AM PDT by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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To: SubMareener

Amen, it’s happening to be sure.

Good post.

Stand firm, do not bend.

I will not comply, I will only adhere to God’s Word.


28 posted on 04/04/2016 7:59:47 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: barmag25
While it seems unlikely that Cofield will end up in handcuffs — or that a gay couple would ask him to officiate at their wedding...

Wanna bet?

Now that he has made this declaration, the Gaystapo will intentionally target him.

Don't drop the soap.

29 posted on 04/04/2016 8:03:51 AM PDT by red-dawg (NO Prisoners.)
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To: barmag25

In my church, you have to be a member of the church to be married in it. In order to be a member of my church you have to agree to the church’s constitution. One of those elements in that constitution is that you agree to is that a marriage is between one man and one woman. That point is reemphasized with scriptural passages.

Therefore, if two closet homos who were members of the church wanted to get married. Their membership to the church would be voided.

I imagine most churches have this in their constitutions.


30 posted on 04/04/2016 8:46:55 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: barmag25

[[Pastors feel exposed without religious freedom law]]

Just wait till churches are forced to have ‘gender neutral bathrooms’ and are banned from preventing gay people from serving as youth leaders


31 posted on 04/04/2016 9:02:35 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: MortMan

Our pastor (in Oregon) saw this coming and gave up his license a year ago. He performs a Christian marriage ceremony and the couple gets their state validation at the court house.


32 posted on 04/04/2016 9:15:40 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: barmag25

What’s worse?

A(nother) *law* to ‘reinforce’ the 1st Amendment going down in flames?

The trampling of our 1st A. Rights by the same govt that will instituted to protect said Rights?

IOW, what’s MORE lawyer-speak going to do that the 1st did NOT, in LESS/plain English?


33 posted on 04/04/2016 10:01:09 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Right Brother

>>The 1st amendment is the “Religious Freedom” law.

*Slight* correction: The 1st amendment is a ‘Govt FOAD’ statement.

‘Law(s)’ can be modified and rescinded, *Rights* are inalienable. NEVER use a Leftist dictionary!


34 posted on 04/04/2016 10:04:14 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: marron

Luckily, there’s the 2nd to re-affirm said Right(s).

Use as needed.


35 posted on 04/04/2016 10:04:57 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: barmag25
While it seems unlikely that Cofield will end up in handcuffs . . .

About as unlikely as a gay couple wanting to serve pizza at their wedding reception, isn't it?

36 posted on 04/04/2016 10:59:34 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: barmag25
The Rev. Wayne Cofield says he’ll sit in a jail cell before he presides over a same-sex wedding.

Paul would have said the same thing. Bless you Reverand.

37 posted on 04/04/2016 11:38:32 AM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: barmag25

The gaystapo will LOVE putting these pastors in jail.


38 posted on 04/04/2016 12:05:37 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: SubMareener

Great post.


39 posted on 04/04/2016 12:37:13 PM PDT by ohioman
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