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Did Valerie Jarrett Order the Hit on LaVoy Finicum?
Freedom Outpost ^ | March 18, 2016 | Tim Brown

Posted on 03/18/2016 7:36:05 PM PDT by george76

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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

The police were not justified in using deadly force either as Lavoy approached the roadblock or as he was getting out of the vehicle.

The shooting at the vehicle was not justified due to the positioning of the roadblock - Lavoy had no chance to come to a stop, and he in fact started breaking probably as soon as he saw the roadblock (he starts breaking 4-5 seconds before going into the snow).

Also, the two shots fired by the FBI were not justified. You can’t just shoot someone for getting out of your vehicle with his hands up.

At this point, Lavoy was justified in using deadly force to defend himself under common law doctrines of self-defense, and Police lost that same justification. (If you create a scenario in which someone is entitled to self-defense, you are not entitled to defend yourself from them).

So, at best, Lavoy was murdered and based on the FBI’s shooting, he was executed (albeit in a botched fashion).


21 posted on 03/18/2016 9:42:08 PM PDT by bone52
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To: babble-on

Laovy Finicum was murdered or executed. The police improperly used deadly force and were trying to create a circumstance to justify the killing.


22 posted on 03/18/2016 9:43:29 PM PDT by bone52
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To: george76

Bookmark


23 posted on 03/18/2016 9:48:31 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: Bob434
Can you imagine the sheer terror LaVoy Finicum and the occupants of his vehicle felt when they had the cold realization troopers and federal agents were shooting at them at the first roadside stop? All this despite everyone knowing the EXACT meeting to which they were traveling, on the EXACT roads, and for a SPECIFIC meeting?

Unreal.

24 posted on 03/18/2016 10:23:21 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: george76

...and Breitbart and Scalia...


25 posted on 03/18/2016 10:29:35 PM PDT by Crucial (At the heart all leftists is the fear that the truth is bigger than themselves.)
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To: Blue Jays

[[Can you imagine the sheer terror LaVoy Finicum and the occupants of his vehicle felt when they had the cold realization troopers and federal agents were shooting at them at the first roadside stop?]]

No i can not- It must have been absolutely frightening and unreal at the same time- Here they were goign to meet with the sheriff, thinking that htere was no way their own government would put a hit out on them, feeling somewhat safe no doubt- perhaps even thinking the worst that was going to happen was that they would be arrested- then the bullets begin hitting the stopped vehicle as the driver had his hands out the window to show he ws not armed-

I can’t even imagine how betrayed by their own government they felt at that moment in time- All their fears about a corrupt government came true in the blink of an eye at that first stop

I just can’t even imagine - exc ept to imagine that everyone in the vehicle must have been screaming “They are trying to kill us” as Finicum sped away-

What a senseless senseless tragedy this is- The protests had been peaceful and there was NO reason to believe it would be anything but peaceful unless officials forced the issue-


26 posted on 03/19/2016 12:14:50 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: george76

pro’ly ordered the hit on Scalia


27 posted on 03/19/2016 1:32:53 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Buchanan: A note of caution: This establishment is not going quietly.)
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To: george76

“Oregon State Trooper specifically acknowledged that the county to which the protesters were traveling on the day of LaVoy Finicum’s murder was a well-known “UN free zone.” “

......
Grant County is a UN Free Zone. IOW Grant County does not want the UN in Grant County.

http://blog.oregonlive.com/mapesonpolitics/2011/02/united_nations_ambassador_says.html

So the statement by the officer implies that the OSP did not intend to allow the Finicum party to reach Grant County.

So much for Freedom of Association and Freedom of Speech. Going to speak at Grant County?? OSP and the FBI made sure they didn’t make it to the Grant County border.


28 posted on 03/19/2016 4:54:05 AM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: george76

Finicum is not the first and likely won’t be the last unarmed citizen to be murdered by our militarized police at the behest of those in charge. Waco and Ruby Ridge come to mind.


29 posted on 03/19/2016 5:06:48 AM PDT by HomerBohn (Liberals and slinkies: they're good for nothing, but you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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To: george76

Finicum is not the first and likely won’t be the last unarmed citizen to be murdered by our militarized police at the behest of those in charge. Waco and Ruby Ridge come to mind.


30 posted on 03/19/2016 5:06:56 AM PDT by HomerBohn (Liberals and slinkies: they're good for nothing, but you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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To: orinoco

Thank you for setting the record straight on this planned hit.


31 posted on 03/19/2016 5:25:04 AM PDT by mcshot (The "Greatest Generation" would never have allowed the trashing of our Republic.)
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To: Delta 21

And this is a huge story but no big media cover it! The world grows darker


32 posted on 03/19/2016 5:37:48 AM PDT by LYDIAONTARIO
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To: orinoco
Law enforcement dont just kill someone whether they ask for it or not.

Where have you been?

33 posted on 03/19/2016 5:40:12 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Blue Jays

Agree hew could have easily been tackled. That was plowed snow which is very difficult to walk in. I can see hands up “shoot me” to protect his companions who were under fire for no reason. A government “good shoot” murder no matter how it is played. What a legacy Horiuchi and company are making for themselves. Everyone wants to do is go home to their families at night.


34 posted on 03/19/2016 5:46:08 AM PDT by mcshot (The "Greatest Generation" would never have allowed the trashing of our Republic.)
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To: george76
I wouldn't put anything past these people.
35 posted on 03/19/2016 5:47:27 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a person as created by the Law of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man.)
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To: Crucial

and the coroner who did Breitbart’s autopsy and Thomas Clancy.


36 posted on 03/19/2016 6:01:29 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: semimojo; azkathy

Yes .

The propaganda machine keeps rolling on this. Obfuscating the already disputed facts by the mention of the U.N. will make a percentage of the remainder of the people still giving a shit about all this throw their hands up in disgust and walk away shaking their heads.


37 posted on 03/19/2016 8:06:48 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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E-mail from FBI-Portald-
Beth Anne Steele
FBI Portland
Public Affairs
(503) 460-8099
www.fbi.gov/portland
________________________________________
From: Steele, Elizabeth A. (PD) (FBI)
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 11:17 AM
To: Sgt. Nathan Thompson (CCSO PIO); Steele, Elizabeth A. (PD) (FBI); Paz, Christine M. (PD) (FBI); Dezsofi, Gerald E. (PD) (FBI); Fabian Kreamier, Antonia (PD) (FBI); Dietrich, Ayn S. (SE) (FBI); Campbell, Joshua S. (DO) (FBI); Kathryn.Ballew@ic.fbi.govl; brian.needham@co.harney.or.us; reardley@blm.gov; megan nagel@fws.gov; miel_corbett@fws.gov; gavin_shire@fws.gov; osppio@state.or.us
Subject: Harney County PIOs - Sunday, January 3, 2016
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- I spoke with Nate Thompson, Clackamas Co. SO PIO, who will call Lt. Needham. Nate is going to request Virtual Operations Support Team (VOST) assistance to monitor media reporting. This was very helpful at the UCC shooting. He is also going to grab relevant social media accounts for use by HCSO to keep the refuge folks from grabbing them. (Nate can likely come tomorrow to help)
- I have requested FBIHQ set up a media email account for media to have one-stop shopping for requests through the JIC. Beyond that, Lt. Needham or I will figure out a one-stop shopping phone line that can be monitored from the JIC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The FBI had comms and VOST control of all information going in and out of the compound, and at least 2 undercover contractors engaged in wet work inside the compound. They kne exactly what was being said and planned. And they knew exactly what ALL OF US were seeing and hearing from the compound as well because this man



...and he was the last and only one broadcasting from within the compound, was in the truck behind Lavoy's at the first stop, and was the only man not arrested in both vehicles that left the compound.

....and was the first on the internet to say that LaVoy charged the cops and was shot.

38 posted on 03/19/2016 8:23:03 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: Delta 21

http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/republican-gop-politicians-coalition-western-states/

This needs to be seen by all. It includes a recorded meeting that was attended by Steve Grasty, Eric Barnhart-FBI, Representatives of Coalition of Western States who tried to keep the authorities from going in like Ruby Ridge.

Steve Grasty is/was determined that the elected officials not go meet with the people at the Refuge.


39 posted on 03/19/2016 8:36:43 AM PDT by azkathy (OBAMA IS WARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: Delta 21; pilgrim

Look at page 422, the comment says “Reporter called in to CP I believe it was a male. I can confirm. Give me a minute It was a male. Reporter told to not cooperate with FBI by editor.”

Response is telling, “OMG. OK. Heard it is WW reporter. He has photos and other evidence. It may get seized.”

To me, this statement is sickening. Here is the proof that the FBI was manipulating the Media coverage. They intentionally portrayed them as the “Bad guys”.


40 posted on 03/19/2016 8:58:18 AM PDT by azkathy (OBAMA IS WARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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