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Lufthansa reports near miss with drone over Los Angeles
reuters ^ | 03/18/2016

Posted on 03/18/2016 7:35:23 PM PDT by BenLurkin

The close encounter between the wide-body, four-engine Airbus A380 and the drone occurred at about 1:30 p.m. at an altitude of 5,000 feet (152 metres) as the unmanned aircraft passed about 200 feet (61 meters) over the Lufthansa flight 14 miles (22.5 km) east of the airport, the FAA said.

No evasive action was taken by the airline crew, and the plane, Lufthansa Flight 456, safely made its landing minutes later without further incident, according to FAA spokesman Ian Gregor.

The FAA immediately alerted the Los Angeles Police Department's air support division, an LAPD spokesman said.

The number of passengers and crew aboard the plane was not immediately reported by authorities, nor was the flight's origin.

Federal regulations generally bar drone aircraft and model airplanes from flying higher than 400 feet (122 meters) or within 5 miles (8 km) of an airport without first contacting air traffic control and airport authorities. Operators also must keep their drones away from other aircraft, sporting events and other groups of people.

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TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aviation; california; drone; lax; losangeles; lufthansa; nearmiss

1 posted on 03/18/2016 7:35:23 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

5,000 feet? That must be a very high end drone.


2 posted on 03/18/2016 7:38:54 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: BenLurkin

Ut us inexcusable that people would fly a drone near airports and at altitudes where they endanger airplanes.


3 posted on 03/18/2016 7:39:54 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

..5,000 feet? That must be a very high end drone...

Pilot told tower 52-53.


4 posted on 03/18/2016 7:41:24 PM PDT by Sasparilla (Hillary for Prosecution 2016)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Saw a drone flying near the other end of LAX runways - it was going up and down just above the beaches just south of the airport. 5000 feet is much, much higher than this thing.


5 posted on 03/18/2016 7:43:52 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: BenLurkin

Here’s a phrase that apparently the airlines simply made up: near miss. They say that if 2 planes almost collide, it’s a near miss. Bullsh__, my friend. It’s a near hit! A collision is a near miss.
[WHAM! CRUNCH!]
“Look, they nearly missed!”
“Yes, but not quite.”

-George Carlin


6 posted on 03/18/2016 7:45:06 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BenLurkin
"... at an altitude of 5,000 feet (152 metres)..."

Error in original article. 152 meters= ~500 feet.

7 posted on 03/18/2016 7:45:26 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yep, government...


8 posted on 03/18/2016 7:46:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

Probably should read 1,520 meters.

If an A380 was at 500 feet 14 miles east of LAX...that would be a headline in and of itself.


9 posted on 03/18/2016 7:53:02 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik
Error in original article. 152 meters= ~500 feet.

I think the "152 meters" is wrong, not the "5000 feet." The plane was not landing. It was about 14 miles east of the airport.

10 posted on 03/18/2016 7:53:37 PM PDT by TChad
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To: BenLurkin

14 miles @ 300 ft/mile for a 3 degree glideslope = 4200 feet, plus about 200 feet (above the jet, per the reports) = about 4400 feet for the drone at the time of the incident.

It was probably one of the heavier drones, with bigger batteries and cameras, since the smaller ones can’t get that high (and the operator would lose sight of a smaller one at that altitude).

Put it this way: the drones that have that kind of capability have more mass than a goose, and at 200 knots closure (likely the slowest the A380 was traveling) it could do a lot of damage, considering it’s not composed of skin, bone, and feathers, but rather dense metal in its motors, batteries, and cameras.


11 posted on 03/18/2016 7:54:34 PM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: BenLurkin

Yeah, be a lot of very excited folks out in East L.A. Possibly taking potshots as it flew over as well.


12 posted on 03/18/2016 8:01:00 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: BenLurkin
No evasive action was taken by the airline crew, and the plane, Lufthansa Flight 456, safely made its landing minutes later without further incident, according to FAA spokesman Ian Gregor.

They didn't see it until it was too late for evasive action. If they had been on a collision path, they likely would have collided even with a few seconds notice, because the A380 is not very maneuverable at that configuration and speed, and was on autopilot (slows the response from the pilot unless the autopilot is disconnected).

13 posted on 03/18/2016 8:02:07 PM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: BenLurkin

Thank you for flying Lufthansa...

(Very old punchline to a very old joke.)


14 posted on 03/18/2016 9:16:06 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

That’s disturbing too. On my last trip out of LAX, we we’re at about 1000 ft over the beach, A-321.


15 posted on 03/18/2016 9:19:16 PM PDT by onedoug
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16 posted on 03/18/2016 9:26:13 PM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Dang, I don’t really want a drone yet, but every time I read one of these stories I feel compelled to go get one before some jackass ruins it for all of us and it’s too late.


17 posted on 03/19/2016 2:20:08 AM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Dr. Pritchett

my drone is registered with faa and is capable of amazing heights. Very fun to use but govt will probably further restrict use with things like this going on.


18 posted on 03/19/2016 3:34:30 AM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how. But bloggers do.)
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To: VaRepublican

“govt will probably further restrict use with things like this going on.”

What can they really do after you own it? Don’t they have to get the manufacturers to build in governors of some sort?


19 posted on 03/19/2016 4:40:07 AM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: BenLurkin
These "drones" are probably the little 4-prop jobs.
I'll bet several have already collided with jets and the pilots never knew,
20 posted on 03/19/2016 4:55:04 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (Go Ted Cruz)
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