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Analysis: Clinton part of widespread use of non-secure email for sensitive information
Chicago Tribune ^ | 3/06/16 | Rosalind S. Helderman, Tom Hamburger

Posted on 03/06/2016 5:04:33 AM PST by Libloather

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To: Libloather

See the “tu quoque” fallacy. Often used by naughty children’ but largely discredited as a scientific principle.


21 posted on 03/06/2016 7:10:28 AM PST by IronJack
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To: Libloather

Nope.

I sat in classrooms with lots of government employees being briefed on communications security.

We all heard the same opening line at every class.

“If you give away our government’s secrets, intentionally or unintentionally, we will put you in prison.”


22 posted on 03/06/2016 7:34:12 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Tijeras_Slim
It is the normalization of treason.

Besides seeing The Beast in prison orange, her pet worm Sidney Blumenthal belongs in a cage with a big, burly animal by the the name of “Bruthe.”

23 posted on 03/06/2016 8:01:55 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V - A Call to Convention, available at Amazon.)
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To: pepsionice

“”We couldn’t return them for our money””

Emphasis on OUR MONEY!!!!!!


24 posted on 03/06/2016 8:22:23 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: ClearCase_guy

“”I say with confidence that the federal government does not handle IT well. IRS software, Obamacare websites, secure IT networks, email security — all of this is done badly at a cost of many billions.””

This is from a thread yesterday on obozo’s plans to bring the government agencies into the 21st Century or whatever! I think we’ve heard the same story from several administrations...guess we’re still waiting. With a history like this, we have to determine that there isn’t any desire to make needed, useful and efficient changes to systems in the federal government.

“”That’s why, next week, I’ll travel to Austin, Texas, to visit South by Southwest. It’s an annual gathering of some of our most creative thinkers, coders, makers, and entrepreneurs from across the country. And while I’m there, I’m going to ask everyone for ideas and technologies that can help update our government and our democracy to be as modern and dynamic as America itself.””


25 posted on 03/06/2016 8:30:57 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Tijeras_Slim
The “everybody does it” defense.

Yep it is, thus we should prosecute them all. Just ask General Petraeus.

26 posted on 03/06/2016 8:45:55 AM PST by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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To: Thank You Rush
The issue for IT is the same as in all aspects of government: they are averse to risk-taking, they like to do things "the way we've always done things". And the people in charge are people who have been there longest and have the right friendships.

Silicon valley is the opposite in every way.

In a technology environment, you need new people, new ideas, new methods. You go in knowing that you will "win some" and "lose some". So risk taking is expected, as long as you're not stupid about it.

The government is a sclerotic bureaucracy which has trouble with mundane tasks. I suppose that it is possible that this is not a glaring problem in Land Management, or Tax collecting. Maybe. But when it comes to IT Networks and SW efforts, you're dead before you start if you don't have a willingness to accept creative ideas. Everything changes constantly. What you did last year won't work this year. So try something new and different.

They can't do that.

27 posted on 03/06/2016 11:15:33 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: blueunicorn6
“If you give away our government’s secrets, intentionally or unintentionally, we will put you in prison.”

Our government also says "Do as we say, not as we do."

28 posted on 03/06/2016 8:38:03 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

**** “The “everybody does it” defense”****

We got plenty of Rope!


29 posted on 03/06/2016 11:03:13 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: Libloather
A GOOD update from two days ago.

WE are wending our way toward a MOST interesting moment in Political History.

Watch this short interview with Judge Anthony Napolitano. Very INFORMATIVE.

The "Historical Political Moment" I'm alluding to is pointed out in the final 30 seconds of the video by the Judge.

Judge Napolitano: There Will Be An Indictment Before November Elections

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhWB004l6G4
30 posted on 03/06/2016 11:13:07 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Tijeras_Slim; dirtboy
The “everybody does it” defense.

Except that Hillary was fixated on using top secret material..... especially State Dept info WRT foreign governments....to enrich her and Bill via the Clinton Foundation.

REFERENCES

<><> The head of a Canadian company with an enormous interest in the Congo's mining and oil sector, Lukas Lundin of Lundin Mining, announced a $100 million donation to the Clinton Foundation on the heels of Hillary/'s first presidential campaign when she became SofS.

After the Congolese government attempted to regain control of its own mines, the State Department intervened on behalf of Lundin Mining and another mining company, Freeport Mines, also a Clinton foundation donor.

A round of talks in 2010, thought to be aided by the Clinton State Department, concluded with the pair of well-connected companies retaining their stakes in the mines and with the Congolese government being shut out of its own resources. (hat tip Schweizer book---Clinton Cash).

<><>Hillary/s State Dept Aide Shared Classified Information With Clinton Foundation, Email Shows; Cheryl Mills sent information marked confidential to Clinton Foundation in 2012 / BY Alana Goodman September 28, 2015

A key aide of Hillary Clinton emailed classified information about the government in Congo to a staffer at the Clinton Foundation in 2012, according to a copy of the correspondence obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.

Cheryl Mills, Clinton/s chief of staff at the State Department, sent the email to the Clinton Foundation’s foreign policy director, Amitabh Desai, on July 12, 2012.

The message, which was originally obtained by the group Citizens United through a public records request, is partially redacted because it includes foreign government information that has been classified Confidential by the State Department......but was not marked classified by the State Department until this past summer, intelligence sources tell the Free Beacon that it would have been classified at the time Mills sent it because foreign government information is considered classified from inception.

The message could add to concerns from congressional and FBI investigators about whether former Secretary Clinton and her aides mishandled classified information while at the State Department.

About half of the forwarded message was redacted due to its classified nature before the State Department released it to Citizens United last month. Although it is not clear what the redacted section includes, the State Department said in a court motion filed last week that it concerns both foreign government information and critical aspects of U.S. foreign relations, including U.S. foreign activities carried out by officials of the U.S. Government.

The State Department added that the disclosure of this information has the potential to damage and inject friction into our bilateral relationship with African countries whose cooperation is important to U.S. national security.

The Clinton Foundation and the State Department did not respond to request for comment about the email, or say whether Desai...a non-government employee who has worked at the foundation since 2007....would have been authorized to view Confidential information.

---SNIP---

REST AT http://freebeacon.com/politics/clinton-aide-shared-classified-information-with-foundation-email-shows/

<><> Cheryl Mills was also feathering her own nest w/ State Dept emails----Mills currently runs the BlackIvy Group, a consulting firm that focuses on developing dirt-poor Sub-Saharan Africa.

SUB SAHARAN AFRICA / State Dept list
African Union Benin Botswana Burkina Faso Cameroon Congo (Brazzaville) Congo (DRC-Kinshasa) Ethiopia Ghana Guinea Ivory Coast Kenya Lesotho Madagascar Malawi Mauritius Mozambique Namibia Niger Nigeria Rwanda Senegal Sierra Leone South Africa Swaziland Tanzania Togo Uganda Zambia.

<><> The State Dept email, which discussed the relationship between the governments in Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo, was originally drafted by Johnnie Carson, the State Department/s assistant secretary for African affairs, who sent it to Mills State Department email address.

Cheryl Mills later forwarded the full message to the foundation/s operative along with talking points for ex-President Clinton shortly before Bill Clinton was scheduled to visit the Congo region.

31 posted on 03/07/2016 4:03:42 AM PST by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: Libloather

Amazing. If I violated ONE of these standards I would be fired and likely jailed.


32 posted on 03/07/2016 4:05:48 AM PST by Lazamataz (I'm an Islamophobe??? Well, good. When it comes to Islam, there's plenty to Phobe about.)
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To: Libloather

As is usual, the media and the Democrats are counting on the public being lazy and ill informed. The media handles the ill informed part. Democrat handouts ensure the lazy part.

This simple plan has been working well for them for 50 years.


33 posted on 03/07/2016 4:16:34 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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