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An Open Letter to three FBI Agents that killed Finicum
Fox 1450 News ^ | 2-25-2016 | Kate Dally

Posted on 02/26/2016 9:31:43 AM PST by azkathy

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To: azkathy

I didn’t see the list; could you re-send?


61 posted on 02/26/2016 1:06:23 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: azkathy

Was wondering why the gov all of a sudden ‘had to’ close them down. They had been going to the meetings previously and not interfered with, must have been too successful.

Will any of this come out for the public, as a whole, to see? Or where they can understand?


62 posted on 02/26/2016 1:26:00 PM PST by pilgrim
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To: MeganC

“a highly advanced USAF drone “

Really, a USAF “drone?”

What drone (UAV) was it?

Seriously where was it reported as I don’t recall off-hand where it was reported to be a USAF “drone.”

Was it USAF or was it DHS, since DHS has FAA approval to operate Predators in unrestricted airspace in the NAS, the USAF does not.

By the way, what is “highly advanced?”

That video looks like any GoPro camera, even worse actually, and anyone with a few hundred bucks can achieve the same video quality.

Cheers.


63 posted on 02/26/2016 1:58:11 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Yo-Yo

Gutsy post on your part. . .stand by for hostile barrage fire. . .


64 posted on 02/26/2016 1:59:47 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Yo-Yo
If LaVoy would have stayed stopped at the first encounter, kept his hands in plain sight, and waited for his day in court, he would still be alive.

It may have been a tough call for Finicum. More than one of the occupants in Finicum's truck claim they were fired upon while stopped the first time and the man in the right front passenger seat had both his hands out the window. First bullet just missed him and hit the right side mirror. It is likely Finincum feared for his life and the lives of his passengers at the first stop.

65 posted on 02/26/2016 2:12:32 PM PST by suijuris
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To: DPMD

“To places like Area 51”

Area 51? Out of place on the list, don’t you think.

For those that don’t know, airspace over parts of Nevada are used for Red Flag exercises, training flights, continuation training, Weapons School syllabus flights, search and rescue exercises (CSAR), etc. You know, the military you thank for their service are honing their skills there.

So, that means the airspace is necessary to fly these missions and by doing so over the desert, you are flying over areas that disrupt the least amount of people, especially important because some of those exercises involve hundreds of jets in the same general airspace.

The airspace is divided up and assigned a number and Area 51 is a chunk of airspace over Groom Lake, the base.

Basically, Area 51 is “air” and Groom Lake is “ground.”

This airspace and the base are necessary to ensure the best trained, most capable pilots, and advanced classified R&D is accomplished to ensure we have a significant qualitative edge over all others.

Surely that is a good thing.


66 posted on 02/26/2016 2:14:27 PM PST by Hulka
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To: suijuris
The full video can be seen here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAGxDWKrjPQ

The first stop lasts from 1:07 to 8:20 in that video. Over seven minutes. There are moments where the passenger window's view is blocked by trees, but at no point do I see the passenger with both hands out of the window.

When the truck does leave the first stop, it does not appear to me that the truck took off at anything other than a "normal" speed. I also do not see any evidence of the passenger side mirror being shot.

I'm not saying that anybody deserved to die, and I am sympathetic to his cause, but I stand by what I said. If LaVoy would have stayed stopped, his hands in plain sight, and waited for his day in court, he would still be alive.

67 posted on 02/26/2016 3:06:26 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: azkathy
​ If one asks the question, "WHY did the BLM start a Land Consolidation Program in 2010?" {after hellacious clinton returned from China in 2009}, and follow the timeline of the Hammond's intensified persecution beginning in June of 2010, an enquiring mind might start to wonder... Were the Hammonds' targeted as a test case in Oregon ? The following timeline of events merging in 2010 (the indictment against the Hammond's was June 2010 ) gives one pause to wonder... Sources and links have been incorporated into the article: if the reader questions the source, an easy google search will verify other sources/links that report the same data. Here goes, it's long, but if you read it all, you might wonder.... Were the Hammonds' targeted as a federal test case for BLM's 2010 Land Agenda? THE TRAIL OF COLLUSION AGAINST THE HAMMONDS In August of 1994, when BLM and FWS falsely arrested Dwight and Steve Hammond for protecting their legally owned water rights, Mr. Hammond did not counter sue for damages and false arrest. He went back to ranching Interim actions of BLM from 1994 to 2006 included arbitrary revocation of 3 (three) separate grazing rights held by Hammonds. http://tekgnosis.typepad.com/t... In August of 2006 BLM Ranger Orr and FWS had Sheriff Dave Glerup arrest Dwight and Steve Hammond. The local county prosecutor reviewed all charges and declined to prosecute. District Attorney Tim Colahan dismissed all 2006 charges after reviewing them, and allowed the charges to move into statutory expiration. In June of 2010, acting preemptively before the statue of limitations expired from the 2006 dismissal by District Attorney Tim Colahan, BLM re-filed ,adding on an additional 17 counts. Indictment United States v. Hammond et al, No. 6:10-cr-60066-HO filed 2010-06-17 chief Judge Ann L. Aiken This is where one could say, after they knew Amanda Marshall was going to end up being their prosecuting attorney: After all, four (4) different US Attorney's for the state of Oregon in less than 16 months is nothing short of ludicrous. One could also say the three preceding US Oregon State Attorney's refused to prosecute the Hammonds', and that is why they didn't get to keep the position. [It is imperative to remember the Hammond's are the last private landholders in and around Mahler Refuge]. Let's take a look at the timelines involved for Ms.(Sally) Amanda Marshall appearing on the scene in 2010. From October 2003 to July 2009, Karen Immergut was the U.S. Attorney for Oregon: she resigned From July 2009 to Feb.3, 2010, Kent Robinson was the interim U.S. Attorney for Oregon. After 7 short months, he was replaced. From Feb. 5, 2010 to ________, Dwight C, Holton was the interim U.S. Attorney for Oregon http://www.mainjustice.com/201... Nov. 17, 2010 Obama nominates Amanda Marshall as U.S. Attorney for Oregon https://www.whitehouse.gov/the... How did S. Amanda Marshall, a sub-par attorney in the child advocacy section, with no federal prosecution experience, get to U.S. Attorney for Oregon? The ten (10) candidates that applied for the position were: 1. Dwight Holton - Oregon interim U.S. Attorney from Feb.5, 2010 (until Amanda Marshall). Known for his tough prosecution of environmental crimes Endorsed by Oregon Sheriff's and Oregon's State Police Officer's Association. http://www.holtonfororegon.com... 2. Kent Robinson - Oregon interim U.S. Attorney from July 2009 to Feb.3, 2010. Thirty years experience in the Justice Dept. 3. Josh Marquis - Clatsop County district attorney 4. John Foote - Clackamas County district attorney 5. Rob Bovett - Lincoln County district attorney 6. John Haroldson - Benton County district attorney 7. Ken Perry - Portland lawyer 8. Robert Hutchings - Lane County public defender 9. John Hummel - Portland lawyer 10. Amanda Marshall - child advocate lawyer. Attended East China University of Politics and Law in Shanghai. http://www.mainjustice.com/tag... By October 28, 2009, three applicants remained on the list: Josh Marquis, Kent Robinson, and Amanda Marshall. http://www.mainjustice.com/200... Kent Robinson withdrew his application for unnamed reasons, and the final list submitted to the White House included only Josh Marquis and S. Amanda Marshall. Amanda Marshall..."may as well have had an inappropriate working relationship with Judge Aiken that should have potentially led to Judge Aiken to recuse herself from the Hammond re-sentencing. Prior to being nominated by President Barack Obama as U.S. District Attorney Amanda Marshall worked for the Oregon Department of Justice in Child Advocacy Services. Judge Aiken has been the presiding President of the Child Advocacy Services Board since 1998. Take into account that the only testimony used to establish “malicious intent” on part of the Hammonds derived from Dusty Hammond, Dwight Hammond’s grandson, a mentally incompetent 13 year old whose case has been overseen by Child Advocacy Services and the potential for wrongful collusion begins to crystallize. Initially in the trial Dusty Hammonds testimony was disqualified by Judge Mike Hogan due to his mental capacity. Despite this Dusty Hammonds testimony is assumed to have been used by Judge Aiken in determining malicious intent by the Hammonds to qualify them under the terrorism statute for re-sentencing." "This is not the first instance of Judge Aiken potentially failing to acknowledge inappropriate relationships when presiding over a case. In a 2013 complaint of Judicial Misconduct filed against Judge Aiken, a class action by Oregon lawyers against the Oregon State Bar, the Supreme Court of Oregon Chief Justice Thomas Balmer and Jeff Sapiro, it is alleged Aiken failed to disclose similar relationships. It is clear that Judge Aiken has a vested interest, politically, judicially and personally in the Malhuer Reserve and in all likely hood should have not presided over this appeal," considering her ties to the situation and the key individuals involved." https://shastalantern.net/2016... BLM CHECKERBOARD LAND ACQUISITION PLAN 2010 was also a pivotal year for the Bureau of Land Management (BLM). Congressman Rob Bishop (Utah) discovered their plans in missing pages not submitted to Congress. http://robbishop.house.gov/. Bishop is the chairman of the House Committee on Natural Resources. http://robbishop.house.gov/new... ( Page 19 Attachment 6 Internal Draft NOT FOR RELEASE BLM LAND CONSOLIDATION OF ITS CHECKERBOARDED LANDS) The fact that these missing pages of BLM's plans to consolidate all its' checkerboarded lands were not submitted for approval to Congress cannot help but lend credence to their illegal activities and collusion with local authorities to acquire Hammonds' ranch. Again: Hammonds' are the last private landholders around Mahler Refuge. More Political Incest: Jake Klonoski is an Attorney Advisor in the Department of the Inspector General 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/ja... In 1978 (judge) Ann Aiken married James Klonoski, and Jake Klonoski is their son. The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals is where Amanda Marshall submitted her appeal to send the Hammonds' back to prison for more jail time. "In order to re-sentence the Hammonds as terrorists the United States Government had to file an appeal Under 18 U.S. Code 3742 (B). According to the code; “…The Government may not further prosecute such appeal without the personal approval of the Attorney General, the Inspector General, or a deputy inspector general designated by the Inspector General. The same Inspector General where Jake Klonoski is employed as a key Attorney Adviser." http://www.fourwinds10.net/sit... Only 1% of the 5,000 odd appeals are ever picked to be heard in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. "Each year the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals receives upwards of 5,000 requests for a new hearing before all the court’s judges, said Kelly Zusman, appellate chief for the U.S. attorney’s office in Oregon. The judges only hear about 1 percent of those requests. “They grant very, very few,” she said." http://www.bendbulletin.com/lo... "Judge Aiken was also the presiding Judge in a 2006 case that overturned several key provisions of the Steens Mountain Cooperative Management and Protection Act of 2000 which she found violated the supremacy of the Federal Environmental Protection Act." http://www.fourwinds10.net/sit... "A management plan that the Hammonds were key in helping construct." "It should be noticed that the Hammonds, as acknowledged by Congressman Walden, were instrumental in development of the co-operative plan." http://agenda21radio.com/?p=23... Judge Aiken’s decision weighed heavily based on affidavit testimony by Harney County Judge Stephen Grasty,whose actions have come into question and extreme scrutiny since the occupation began." Harney County 'judge' Stephen Grasty, has a brother that is a BLM supervisor. http://wn.com/blm_oregon_judge... Steve Grasty is not a real 'judge' in the legal, judiciary sense. Harney County, Oregon has a strange system (yes, there are a lot of things in Harney County that are not normal) where the three elected country commissioners (of which Steve Grasty is one), refer to the third commissioner as 'judge'. This is an administrative body, NOT judicial. http://www.co.harney.or.us/ The Real Judiciary system in Harney County, Oregon is called Harney County CIRCUIT Court. http://courts.oregon.gov/Harne... Harney County BLM Manager is Rhonda Karges, who is married to Chad Karges, the manager of Mahler Wildlife Refuge. http://tekgnosis.typepad.com/t... The BLM expended no monies or efforts in putting out the 139 acres of fire they accused the Hammonds' of deliberately setting. So why the $400,000 fine the Hammonds' were forced to pay? The State of Oregon has its' own wildfire insurance policy through Lloyd's of London. So why the $400,000 fine the Hammonds' were forced to pay? http://www.bendbulletin.com/lo... If the BLM and corrupt county officials that perjured themselves were not guilty of collusion in their agenda to obtain the last checkerboarded piece of land in and around Mahler Wildlife Refuge, why did they insist on being first in line to buy the Hammond's ranch? ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ There is more 'evidence': 12-31-2015 affidavit filed stating Assistant US Prosecutor Papagni called Kendra Matthews and Lawrence Matasar (Hammonds attorneys) and that Papagni told Hammonds' attorney's if the Hammond's made any 'fuss', they would be reporting to a harder prison and at a much earlier report date. PDF court document Other information: No 'fire arson' experts were ever produced to testify against the Hammonds'. It was just BLM saying it was arson. No deer bones, or other evidence was ever produced by prosecution against the Hammonds'. (deer bones aren't going to burn up in a simple grass fire) If the 'hunting party' allegedly witnessed this ( the hunting guide's permit comes from BLM), it would seem odd why none of them popped out their cell phones, or camera's to take pictures of such alleged crimes Note: Most people think Frank Papagni prosecuted the Hammond's: but he was Assistant US Attorney for Oregon. , Amanda Marshall, State US Attorney for Oregon, was his boss.
68 posted on 02/28/2016 10:36:20 PM PST by HighPlains
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To: HighPlains

Thanks for compiling all of this.

The collusion in the courts is a really BAD thing.


69 posted on 02/29/2016 5:43:23 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: azkathy

once was ... only somehow I lost my posting name. (geologist) and had to start again. Haven’t gone there (Face BooK) since. Same on Free Republic too.

Lost some of my pizazzaz ...?

Thnks for asking.


70 posted on 03/01/2016 11:21:47 AM PST by midlander
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