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in South Carolina, a state with an enormous evangelical vote.

I keep pointing out that South Carolina is an open primary state. What happened there is that DEMOCRATS voted for Trump. Establishment types voted for Rubio.

4 posted on 02/23/2016 10:33:51 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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I keep pointing out that South Carolina is an open primary state. What happened there is that DEMOCRATS voted for Trump.

75 percent of voters were Evangelicals. Trump whipped Cruz's ass. You can't blame the Democrats for this one.

9 posted on 02/23/2016 10:35:53 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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With Burney and Hillary hard at it, difficult to believe that many OpChaos Dems went Republican in SC.

The ones that did went for Jeb, obviously the softest target for November.


10 posted on 02/23/2016 10:36:00 AM PST by nascarnation (RIP Scalia. Godspeed)
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Uh-huh. Sure


13 posted on 02/23/2016 10:36:10 AM PST by jimbo807
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To: DiogenesLamp
I keep pointing out that South Carolina is an open primary state. What happened there is that DEMOCRATS voted for Trump.

So the can't vote again for the dim caucus in support of Bernie....?

15 posted on 02/23/2016 10:36:43 AM PST by spokeshave (Somewhere there is a ceiling for Trump.....Yeah, it's called The Oval Office)
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What happened there is that DEMOCRATS voted for Trump. Establishment types voted for Rubio.

You may be over-simplifying it. Dems vote this coming Saturday for Bernie or Hitlary in SC, providing they did NOT vote in the R primary this past Saturday. Doubt there was that much staunch Dem crossover this past weekend, unless they intend to vote for DT in the General.

Things are a bit different this year in SC.
20 posted on 02/23/2016 10:38:36 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: DiogenesLamp

Sorry, but the numbers don’t bear out your thesis. Fully 1/3 of Evangelical voters went for Trump. Both Ds and Rs have too much at stake right now to bother with crossover voting. All you are doing is making excuses for Cruz, but it’s not working.


22 posted on 02/23/2016 10:39:17 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: DiogenesLamp
I keep pointing out that South Carolina is an open primary state. What happened there is that DEMOCRATS voted for Trump.”

Thanks for pointing that out. I had completely forgotten that idiosyncrasy with SC. I was flabbergasted by Sen Cruz's apparent poor showing

50 posted on 02/23/2016 10:49:51 AM PST by Cyman
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To: DiogenesLamp

Do you really believe that Dems who care whether Hillary or Bernie wins their primary are going to waste their vote by voting in GOP primary? You can only vote in one or the other.

That said I don’t put much store in anonymous quotes and find it hard to believe someone still in a campaign would say that. Although I support Trump.


55 posted on 02/23/2016 10:51:09 AM PST by nclaurel
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in South Carolina, a state with an enormous evangelical vote.
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I keep pointing out that South Carolina is an open primary state. What happened there is that DEMOCRATS voted for Trump. Establishment types voted for Rubio.
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Trust me, I’m here, that’s not what happened. Every demographic voted for Trump.


72 posted on 02/23/2016 10:56:32 AM PST by QuigleyDU
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To: DiogenesLamp

Do you live in SC?

I do, and am very familiar with SC politics. That is not what happened. Trump had overwhelming support in this state in all voter categories.

It had nothing to do with it being an open primary state. He had the majority of the Republican voter support


73 posted on 02/23/2016 10:57:23 AM PST by neverbluffer
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To: DiogenesLamp

Sounds like you are telling yourself something that you wish were true.


96 posted on 02/23/2016 11:03:20 AM PST by uncitizen (Investigate Scaliagate!)
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The numbers were broken down. Of the dem crossovers, 33% went to Trump, 30% split between rubio and Cruz and the rest spread out over the others.

On my pad or I’d find you the link


134 posted on 02/23/2016 11:20:25 AM PST by digger48
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Cruz is losing everywhere, may even lose Texas. Can’t blame Democrats...he should maybe finish his term as Senator before he fills himself with self righteous hubris again.


147 posted on 02/23/2016 11:26:46 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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Dem crossover votes for all three top 3.

Cruz got fewer. Translation, he would never have had a chance in the general.


148 posted on 02/23/2016 11:26:47 AM PST by moehoward
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Exactly right. Conservatives have been so successfully demonized by both the GOP establishment and the leftist Democrats, that many folks shy away from any real conservative candidate.

Plus, these open primaries are rife with dishonest opportunists crossing over and voting in the GOP primary in order to skew the results. Having open primaries are one of the most idiotic things the GOP does....among a plethora of other idiotic, stupid things the GOP does.


150 posted on 02/23/2016 11:26:58 AM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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I actually read that evangelicals were fairly split on who they voted for, enough to where a couple of the pseudo pastor/political consultant wannabe types wrote blistering letters to the evangelicals telling ‘em to stop voting for Donnie boy and get all behind Mr. Sachs, cuz Jesus wants to cut out the middle-man or something.

18 f-——ing whores in this election and the pack ‘em add up to about 9 phonies, 400 pounds of low grade fertilizer and horribly misused human skin.


156 posted on 02/23/2016 11:28:47 AM PST by L,TOWM (Is it still too soon to start shooting? [No social transformation without representation])
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“DEMOCRATS voted for Trump.”

Not surprising. Trump beats the rest of the Republican field in every demographic, including those not normally bound to our party.

He’s got an appeal that crosses over every division of class, education, race, location, earnings, and political persuasion.

Like Reagan before him, he’ll run the table because of that.


204 posted on 02/23/2016 11:46:47 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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I keep pointing out that South Carolina is an open primary state. What happened there is that DEMOCRATS voted for Trump. Establishment types voted for Rubio.

According to exit polls, Trump took "Born Again Christians" (72% of the voters) at +6. (Trump 33, Cruz 27, Rubio 22). 2% of the respondents claimed to be democrats and their poll numbers were negligible. 22% claimed to be Independents which Trump took over Rubio at 33% to 19%.

If 72% of the voters identify as "Born Again", and Cruz loses that category, it does spell trouble.
214 posted on 02/23/2016 11:50:33 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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No proof that Democrats voted in the Rep primary. Half of the Democrats are black in SC. I didn't see a single black person at the poll I was at for two hours supporting Trump.

The Dem primary is held this week. We will see how the turnout is compared to past Dem primaries. The Reps set a record as they have in Iowa and NH. No doubt there will be a big turnout in NV for the Reps. In NV, the Dems had one third less than in 2008.

250 posted on 02/23/2016 12:14:48 PM PST by kabar
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Please post data to support your claim that it is crossover voters that allowed a Trump win in SC.

Trump won among republicans with 32%. This made up 76% of the primary vote. In a closed primary he would have won.

Trump won among independents with 33%. Rubio was second among independent voters, that is largely where he passed Cruz. Ind did more to help Rubio than they did Trump. Ind were 22% of the primary vote.

Registered dems made up only 2% of the GOP primary and didt not affect who won. They may have influenced some of the down ballot positioning.

Analysis of the actual numbers shows the dem vote did not affect the final SC results.

If you have actual hard data to the contrary please ping me.


295 posted on 02/23/2016 12:46:44 PM PST by BlueNgold (May I suggest a very nice 1788 Article V with your supper...)
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