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To: DCdude

Trump has either lost me or is quickly losing me. He’s dead wrong on 9/11, planned parenthood and the Iraq War.

It looks like he is only saying most of what he says to defeat Bush, Cruz, etc. I am pretty sure he does not believe most of what he is saying.

I love the non-PC message and the energy and the willingness and ability to go for the jugular. But if he wins I have no real idea what he may or may not do and I don’t see how anyone can say that they do.

He needs to change his act. At least modify it.


77 posted on 02/14/2016 8:58:13 AM PST by BridgeOutAhead (Obama.....dabit deus his quoque finem)
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106 posted on 02/14/2016 9:06:25 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Delegate count to date: Trump 18, Cruz 10, Rubot 9, Kasich 4, Carson 3, Yebe 3, Fior 1)
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To: BridgeOutAhead

Trump said this morning that Bush had warnings from CIA before 911 and did nothing. Shouldn’t he have tightened security, done any of the things we learned too late? A little foresight would have been good.

Trump has said 6 billion times that he will defund planned parenthood. The fact that he doesn’t condemn them outright is cancer screenings for women, std treatment, etc. Sad that pp had to be so evil because it could have done good.

And most people agree we never should have gone into Iraq. It gave us ISIS, a nuclear Iran.


116 posted on 02/14/2016 9:10:19 AM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: BridgeOutAhead
Trump has either lost me or is quickly losing me. He's dead wrong on 9/11, planned parenthood and the Iraq War.

In terms of 9/11, there is a legitimate debate over whether Bush didn't take seriously enough warnings that bin laden was growing in capability, and looking for ways to attack the US directly. Clearly, this doesn't excuse Clinton, nor does it verge into "Truther" territory. In addition, I remember pre-9/11 concerns made by intelligent people that Bush was too preoccupied with Saddam, and was dismissing the greater threat. Regardless of how you stand on that debate, it is going too far to say that he is "dead wrong".

In terms of the Iraq war, all I can say is that many conservatives were very uneasy about both our rationale, and the strategy, of kicking over that hornet's nest. Once again, rationale people can disagree. I wouldn't say he is "dead wrong" here, either.

Planned parenthood is a trickier one, but I think people aren't grasping why is taking the approach he is. Personally, I think it is quite clever, and is far more likely to succeed in destroying PP than the more direct approach taken by other conservatives. If any Republican goes directly after PP, the response will be that that candidate is against "women's health". That is the reason that PP has token "other services" -- to make an attack on PP an attack not on abortion, but also legitimate health issues. This is not dissimilar from other terrorist organizations like Hezbollah having divisions which do legitimate charity work -- it inoculates them against attacks on their real purpose.

By saying that PP does good things, he is effectively splitting PP in two, and allowing him to remove PP's public relation's "shield", and isolating the abortion wing of PP (which is, like any terrorist organization, the only real purpose of PP) from the token legitimate side.

Personally, I believe that this is quite clever, and has a greater chance of success in terms of defeating that terrorist organization than the less tactical approaches taken by Trump's rivals. Either way, it is going too far to say that he is "dead wrong" on this.
141 posted on 02/14/2016 9:21:08 AM PST by jjsheridan5
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To: BridgeOutAhead
BOA:

I love the non-PC message and the energy and the willingness and ability to go for the jugular. But if he wins I have no real idea what he may or may not do and I don’t see how anyone can say that they do.

He needs to change his act. At least modify it.

right on BOA, well put. I also like a lot of the Trump wrecking ball moneychanger in the temple act. but when he goes crazy man, it worries me. what if he really is a psycho? you can do a lot of damage as president, just look at you know who, its a minefield of unintended consequences out there.

another weird thing about trump, he doesn't seem to have any advisors or other team members identified. i guess the others don't either, but, it might help if he had a few same people around him that he says he would rely on in his administration.

-BB

209 posted on 02/14/2016 10:05:05 AM PST by beebuster2000
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