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To: SubMareener

I think she’s just saying that Ted’s faith is consistent with what’s written there - which reflects the faith of the founders.

When I read those words in Jefferson’s memorial, it’s clear that Jefferson wasn’t some sort of godless secularist as some folks try to misrepresent him.


72 posted on 02/11/2016 4:51:03 PM PST by HLPhat (Preventing Global Cooling one tank full at a time!)
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To: HLPhat

you confuse secularism with enlightenment

Jefferson was a product of the 18th century enlightment


76 posted on 02/11/2016 4:53:53 PM PST by Thibodeaux (leading from behind is following)
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To: HLPhat

No! She is articulating the Dominion Doctrine that says the man can bring on the Kingdom of Heaven here on Earth. It denies that only Jesus’ Return can end Satan’s Ownership of the Earth. It embodies all of the boogeymen that secularist use to denigrate Christians by saying they want to impose their morality on everyone.


101 posted on 02/11/2016 5:29:16 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: HLPhat; Yashcheritsiy; All
I think she's just saying that Ted's faith is consistent with what's written there - which reflects the faith of the founders.

When I read those words in Jefferson's memorial, it's clear that Jefferson wasn't some sort of godless secularist as some folks try to misrepresent him.

No, she described the Cruz family as showing America the "face of God". Christ's face was the manifestation of God in the physical. It had nothing to do with principles, or liberty, or campaign values.

This is a post from Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it) on the other thread, I don't know how to create a link to it, but it was number 19:

Calling Ted Cruz "the face of God" is blasphemous. There's no "getting pretty close to" about it.

"The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee." (Numbers 6:25)

"Turn us again, O God, and cause thy face to shine; and we shall be saved." (Psalm 80:3)

"Now therefore, O our God, hear the prayer of thy servant, and his supplications, and cause thy face to shine upon thy sanctuary that is desolate, for the Lord's sake." (Daniel 9:17)

"For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ." (II Corinthians 4:6)

In the Aramaic targums, the Jews considered "the face of God" to be a synonym for the Messiah Himself.

Whether they realise it or not, these Cruz people running around saying stuff like this about Ted Cruz are themselves setting him up as an idol in the place of God.

104 posted on 02/11/2016 5:34:36 PM PST by true believer forever (Trump 2016 - I never knew an entire country could have an ephiphany!)
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