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GOP asks: Can Trump and Cruz be stopped? [This time the shoe is on the other foot]
The Hill ^ | February 11, 2016 | Neil Stanage

Posted on 02/11/2016 4:27:22 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

The Republican establishment is grappling with an uncomfortable reality: No single candidate is about to be crowned as its standard-bearer after New Hampshire's primary.

And that means Donald Trump and Ted Cruz could be sprinting toward the presidential nomination before a third rival gets out of the starting blocks.

"The only way for Donald Trump or Ted Cruz to be stopped is for the establishment to finally rally around one candidate - and it doesn't look like that is going to happen anytime soon," said Ron Bonjean, a Republican strategist and a former aide to GOP leaders on Capitol Hill.

South Carolina hosts the next GOP contest, on Feb. 20, but it's far from certain that any third candidate can compete for a win in that state's primary.

Polling in South Carolina has been relatively sparse, but so far surveys show the billionaire businessman with a large lead and the Texas senator tucked comfortably into second place. The two are the big favorites in the Palmetto State, given their wins in New Hampshire and Iowa, respectively.

From the establishment's perspective, Trump's landslide win on Tuesday night was just about the worst possible outcome.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), who had seemed poised to become the center-right's champion after a strong third-place finish in Iowa's caucuses, sank to fifth in New Hampshire after a disastrous debate performance over the weekend.

Heading up the establishment lane in New Hampshire was Ohio Gov. John Kasich. But Kasich was a very distant second to Trump, and GOP insiders believe he has neither the organization nor the ideological appeal to prevail in South Carolina or in the several Deep South states that will vote on March 1.

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush finished fourth in the Granite State - a showing strong enough to guarantee he will be able to stay in the race for a while but not so strong as to deliver a game-changing shot of momentum.

"It certainly didn't simplify the picture any," Republican strategist Charlie Black said dryly. Black has worked at a senior level on several GOP presidential campaigns in the past, including that of 2008 nominee John McCain. He is unaffiliated this year.

It all adds up to an unappealing vista for establishment Republicans. Further deepening the gloom, South Carolina has a strong record of backing the eventual winner of the GOP nomination. The Palmetto State has backed the winning bid in every Republican contest from 1980 to 2008. In 2012, Newt Gingrich won the primary but was defeated by Mitt Romney in the battle to reach the general election.

"I think it's a game-changer, I really do," said David Woodard, a professor of political science at Clemson University who is also a GOP consultant in the state. "Let's just say Cruz wins: I think that's a big thing. He will have won a Southern state, a base-state for Republicans that is not going blue. That could really help him."

But Woodard also offered a note of caution regarding attempts to predict the outcome in his home state.

"I think I can make a good case for any one of about five people winning the primary," he said with a laugh.

The sheer fluidity of the field is already leading to some fierce jockeying for position. Several candidates are making the argument that they are the best placed to stop Trump from rolling onward toward the nomination.

Cruz, whose old "bromance" with Trump is a thing of the past, insisted that "the only person in this field who can beat Donald Trump is me." The Texan's comments, which were made on radio's "Mike Gallagher Show" on Wednesday, were first reported by BuzzFeed.

Rubio spokesman Alex Conant, meanwhile, argued to CNN that Bush's continued presence in the race makes it more likely that Trump will win.

The battle between Rubio and Bush is also likely to get muddier in general.

Soon after the New Hampshire results became clear, the Bush campaign sent an email to reporters recalling Rubio's earlier pledge to run a "3-2-1" strategy that would see him coming third in Iowa, second in New Hampshire and emerging as the victor in South Carolina.

On Wednesday, another Bush email declared South Carolina to be "Jeb country."

Even though the Palmetto State delivered vital primary victories for George W. Bush in 2000 and for George H.W. Bush in 1988, many GOP insiders think the former Florida governor will have difficulty following in their footsteps.

"What we could see in South Carolina is Bush and Rubio throwing mud at each other while Trump and Cruz are fighting for first place," lamented Bonjean.

Some establishment voices are staving off panic for the moment.

Black, the Republican strategist, noted that the all-important delegates to the national convention are awarded on a proportional basis by all the states that vote up until March 15. On that date, Florida and Ohio are among the biggest states voting. They are huge prizes, because both award their delegates on a winner-take-all basis.

Black asserted that mainstream Republicans would be fine so long as they had coalesced behind one candidate by then. "Whoever can win big on that day is the person who will really take command of the race," he predicted.

Still, virtually all recent major-party nominees have won at least one early-voting state. The hour may already be getting late to stop the march of Trump and Cruz - especially while the identity of the alternative remains unclear.

The establishment "thought it was Rubio - until last night," Woodard said Wednesday, referring to the New Hampshire result.

"I just don't know whether he can really come back to beat all these guys [in South Carolina]. If he fails this time, I don't know if the establishment can come up with anyone."


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KEYWORDS: cruz; gopprimary; sec; southcarolina
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Now wait just a minute...

“:^)


21 posted on 02/11/2016 5:11:23 AM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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To: randita

Very true.

65% of the NH GOP voters voted for someone other than Trump.


22 posted on 02/11/2016 5:12:19 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Trump is leading by 16 points in SC. The poll was taken at the end of January, so does not include any bounce Cruz got from IA or any bounce Trump got from his huge win in NH. But, a FL poll taken AFTER the Iowa caucus showed that Cruz was still lagging far behind Trump in that state, and didn’t receive much, if any, bounce from his IA victory.

Yesterday, Cruz held a rally of 200 people, while Trump rallied about 5,000.

It is entirely possible that Trump’s lead in SC will continue, and may even increase because of the momentum from his totally lopsided victory in NH become apparent.


23 posted on 02/11/2016 5:12:50 AM PST by euram
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To: biff

Ok Biff, let’s try this on for size.

“Can Cruz and Gilmore be stopped?”


24 posted on 02/11/2016 5:13:35 AM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

25 posted on 02/11/2016 5:14:31 AM PST by hey Bean
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To: DoughtyOne

The Gilmore bet is sure bet, the Cruz/Trump one I would not take either side. You probably can’t get any decent odds though on Gilly.


26 posted on 02/11/2016 5:16:57 AM PST by biff
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To: hey Bean
Pac's have been going after Cruz all the time.

Cruz own words on his lies about b1 visas and eminent domain which he favored in Texas Senate debate

27 posted on 02/11/2016 5:17:23 AM PST by scooby321
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To: hey Bean

How old are you, 8?

That’s typical 8 year-old boy bathroom humor.

Trump your guy?


28 posted on 02/11/2016 5:18:24 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Make America Humble

29 posted on 02/11/2016 5:19:01 AM PST by Theophilus (The GOPe are dealers. The Marxist Democrats are duelists.)
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To: DoughtyOne

No others may be discussed alongside or compared to Messiah Trump


30 posted on 02/11/2016 5:21:19 AM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They’re hoping the newly added Faux News debate will allow them to take out Trump or Cruz or both.

All house money is riding on Megan Kelly, she’s already got her payoff with the 10 million dollar book deal.

She will be in full attack slut mode.


31 posted on 02/11/2016 5:26:30 AM PST by stockpirate (Fox News aka - False News Network "We deceive, you believe.")
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To: Teacher317

Who has made the claim Trump is perfect?

And yet we can traverse the forum and see comment after comment about Ted always being a true conservative. Faultless...

You tell me which one has a messianic complex.


32 posted on 02/11/2016 5:32:29 AM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That’s a hoot......

90% voted against Bush
88% voted against Cruz
86% voted against Kasich


33 posted on 02/11/2016 5:33:19 AM PST by stockpirate (Fox News aka - False News Network "We deceive, you believe.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What the Establishment Republicans SHOULD be asking, “Can Herself and The Bern be stopped?”

But of course, they would not understand the question or why it would even be asked.


34 posted on 02/11/2016 5:33:29 AM PST by alloysteel (If I considered the consequences of my actions, I would rarely do anything.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Not until the General they can’t.

However, I admit being unfamiliar with the Super Del situation, etc so ... who knows.


35 posted on 02/11/2016 5:34:24 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
In 2012, Newt Gingrich won the primary but was defeated by Mitt Romney in the battle to reach the general election.

I'll never forget nor forgive Matt Drudge and his GOPe accomplices for his "Bloody Thursday" trashing of Newt Gingrich back in 2012 which effectively ended Newt's campaign. Watch who Drudge supports or slams on his page and you'll quickly see who the GOPe is supporting.

36 posted on 02/11/2016 5:36:04 AM PST by reegs
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I much prefer this photo of Senator Cruz:


37 posted on 02/11/2016 5:37:24 AM PST by reegs
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To: alloysteel

bttt


38 posted on 02/11/2016 5:37:55 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The GOPe has a nuke it could use to stop Cruz. Cruz is zero threat to the selection of a nominee, and the GOPe actually wants Cruz to get more delegates. In this contest, Cruz is part of the anti-Trump faction.


39 posted on 02/11/2016 5:38:09 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Yeah. Right. /s


40 posted on 02/11/2016 5:43:31 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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