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Cruz's Silent Success
US News and World Report ^
| Feb. 10, 2016, at 10:40 a.m.
| Robert Schlesinger
Posted on 02/10/2016 3:19:55 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie
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posted on
02/10/2016 3:21:27 PM PST
by
dynoman
(Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
To: dynoman
Just remember how Iowa turned out with Cruz doing the heavy lifting of retail politics and smaller gatherings with potential voters and Trump, being lazy or believing his own hype, relyed solely on large gathers and Cruz whipped his butt.
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posted on
02/10/2016 3:22:43 PM PST
by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: SoConPubbie
It was 3rd place, yes. Don’t know how ‘strong’ it was, but that is the result. I could vote for either Trump or Cruz.
To: SoConPubbie
Funny how when Trump finished a close #2 in Iowa they called is a “loss” but when Cruz finishes a very very distant 3rd in NH, it’s called a “silent success”.
I guess that’s easier to spell than “a shellacking”.
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posted on
02/10/2016 3:32:05 PM PST
by
bigbob
("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
To: dynoman
All this carping back and forth between the Trump and Cruz camps...
I'm for Trump but if Cruz beats him fair and square for the nomination, I become a Cruz supporter.
Best presidential election ever so far. I actually have two candidates in the running that I can enthusiastically support as we head to South Carolina. Four years ago at this time, I was beginning to accept the fact that it might end up being Romney. Eight years ago at this time, I was coming to terms with McCain.
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posted on
02/10/2016 3:32:45 PM PST
by
SamAdams76
(Delegates So Far: Trump (17); Cruz (11); Rubio (10)
To: SoConPubbie
Well Trump came roaring back and made Cruz's win in Iowa the anemic win that it was. The reason that Cruz's win isn't so impressive is because 3 people basically came in 3rd due to the very close amount of votes between them. But Cruz will milk this as much as he can since he has nothing else to run on.
To: SamAdams76
I’m for Trump but if Cruz beats him fair and square for the nomination, I become a Cruz supporter
Of course. But Cruz has not proved he has played fair and square.....we will see how he behaves going on.
To: SamAdams76
Thankfully in a couple weeks most of this will be over.
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posted on
02/10/2016 3:36:07 PM PST
by
nascarnation
(Indict Hillary, Huma, and Chelsea; Deport Obama)
To: SoConPubbie
Cruz spent a year living in Iowa and millions of dollars.
Trump, a fraction of the time, and next to no money, and left with one less delegate.
He now leads the delegate count.
Again more of the myth-making to pump Cruz up as being a superhuman character.
To: SoConPubbie
“And in a conservative state like South Carolina, that fight could also play to Cruz’s strengths. The Examiner’s Klein again”.
The South Carolina GOP is dominated by RINOs and all have endorsed either Rubio or Bush. SC used to be a fairly conservative state, but with the invasion of liberals from Yankeeland, especially in the coastal areas, liberal Lindsey Graham is sent back to the senate every four years to backstab the Republican Party.
Trump will take SC. He gets a cross-section of all voters. Go home Jebbie, your mama couldn’t help you in NH and your dimwitted brother will be no help in SC.
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posted on
02/10/2016 3:37:15 PM PST
by
NKP_Vet
(In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
To: dynoman
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posted on
02/10/2016 3:37:25 PM PST
by
skeeter
To: SoConPubbie
Just remember how New Hampshire turned out with Trump doing the heavy lifting with potential voters and Cruz, being lazy or believing his own hype, relyed (haha) solely on small gathers (haha) and Trump whipped his butt (except instead of a virtual tie, Trump almost tripled Cruz in votes, but don't let that bother you, don't pay any attention to the man behind the curtain).
See how that works?
Sounded silly and overblown, both ways.......two states, two outcomes, more to come.
To: bigbob
Funny how when Trump finished a close #2 in Iowa they called is a "loss" but when Cruz finishes a very very distant 3rd in NH, it's called a "silent success".
It is not much different from them saying cruz is a conservative, and Trump is not. Who you gonna believe, Your echo chamber or the fact of actions?
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posted on
02/10/2016 3:39:54 PM PST
by
JoSixChip
(Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - DC Values)
To: bigbob
Two observations. First, Cruz's 3rd place win in NH was anything but “distant”. Secondly, Cruz knew his chances of victory in NH were diminished by the percentage of liberal voters....yes, even republicans. Democrats in Texas are far more conservative than republicans in NH.
Donald Trump nearly came in 3rd in Iowa. Ted Cruz spent a fraction of $$$ in NH vs other candidates. $580,000. The nearest candidate spent upwards of $15 million.
3rd place finish in a uber-liberal state like NH is quite an accomplishment, beating out Yeb and Rubio.
Exciting stuff. Can't wait for SC and Super Tuesday.
To: servantboy777
Cruz Bots . I bet there are more people behind Trump in Clemson tonight.
To: SoConPubbie
Cruz put it on the line in Iowa, where his natural constituency dominates. He mailed it in in New Hampshire, where he didn’t have a prayer.
Everything went as expected in both states. Time will tell what happens now, but I wouldn’t bet against Trump at this point.
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posted on
02/10/2016 3:41:45 PM PST
by
Jeff Chandler
(I shot Schroedinger's cat with Chekhov's gun.)
To: NKP_Vet
“every four years”
For the Senate?
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posted on
02/10/2016 3:42:42 PM PST
by
rwilson99
(Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
To: bigbob
Funny how when Trump finished a close #2 in Iowa they called is a "loss" but when Cruz finishes a very very distant 3rd in NH, it's called a "silent success". Not at all. Politics is about perception. Trump was expected to win Iowa according to the polls, and he exacerbated that expectation by constantly bragging about the polls. So when he underperformed the polls by 8% (from a 5% lead to a 3% loss), especially with as much effeort as he put into the state, it was viewed as a big failure.
Conversely, Cruz was not expected to do well in NH. Many pundits even expected him to wind up 4th or 5th. So by ending up 3rd, Cruz outperformed expectations - and he did so while spending least amount of any candidate and spending the least amount of time in the state. So the perception is that Cruz did really well in a state where he was not expected to do so.
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posted on
02/10/2016 3:43:40 PM PST
by
CA Conservative
(Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
To: SamAdams76
>>I'm for Trump but if Cruz beats him fair and square for the nomination, I become a Cruz supporter.<<
Exactly how I feel. Just as in Texas pro football, I have two teams...Texans and the Cowboyz. lol
If Trump captures the nomination, I will enthusiastically support him to November. Our adversary is the socialist/communist.
What I would not mind seeing is a Trump/Cruz ticket. Trump as president, Cruz as president of the Senate.
That’ll chap McConnell's @$$.
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