[Mrs. Don-o]

The Nazis started off as non-state actors, and used thuggish gangs of "righteous, angry German citizens" before and alongside state action.

You know the history, right?

"Collective punishment"--- intentionally and indiscriminately killing blameless noncombatants and aggressors alike --- whether by individual, gang, paramiliary, or state action, is murder.

[elcid1970]

Have to always get in the last word, don’t you? Goodbye!