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Video: Ted Cruz Was Talking About a Wall YEARS Before Trump
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Posted on 02/07/2016 8:45:29 PM PST by SoConPubbie

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To: mbrfl

Let’s try that again, but with proofreading this time


Here’s a big difference between Trump’s position on building a wall and Cruz’s:

When you pound away on an issue day after day in a campaign, then your election is seen as a mandate on that issue and those that oppose you know that public opinion is against them.

When you give only occasional lip service to an issue, and then are elected, then you’ve merely gone on record to CYA with your base for when you ultimately capitulate and fail to get it passed.


161 posted on 02/08/2016 12:38:39 AM PST by mbrfl
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To: American in Israel

Bearing false witness ranks right up there with adultery and fornication.


162 posted on 02/08/2016 12:39:19 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: WTFOVR

Oh such an intellegent refutation, your IQ must be around the same as Trump. Pity that.

He still outshines you at insults... Tell me true, wear your hair in a combover these days?

Oh, sorry, forgot my audience. Here, this you may understand, ‘If I am a retard, what does that make you?

I know, WTF right?


163 posted on 02/08/2016 12:45:59 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: mbrfl

You say you are all ears, but you dont listen to anything Donald says in the past. I suspect that if you are all ears, an honest man Might think of removing his fingers.

But honesty is a card missing from the deck in trumps camp.

Above all else, to thine own self be true.

So many lost souls folowing the Piper. It greeves me.


164 posted on 02/08/2016 12:55:26 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Windflier

Thank you for your kind and civil reply. I understand you believe in Trump, I hope you are right, but only 8 years ago I heard the same thing about Obama, and people were so sure that was true that they gave him a premptive Nobel Peace Prize.

And now, 8 years later we are the worlds largest finicial supporter of terrorism and Russia is on the march while Europe is invaaded by the Caliphate Obungler created. Obama promised peace and prosperity, but delivered WWIII and depression.

Obama and Trump are have the identical speach patter, disjointed emotional speeches long on promise, yet empty on solutions or plans. And in both cases people worship them, and see only what they want by faith.

Donald does not scare me, his followers frighten me. Donald is transparent just like Obama was and is. Donald is who he says he was before wresting the Presidency back from Conservatives became his goal. Then it all changed.

If Trump wins the nomination, the Progressives will nail the last nail in Americas coffin.

Ted could buy us time, Donald will pave the way to Armageddon.

Blessings FRiend


165 posted on 02/08/2016 1:17:25 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: mbrfl
I have lived all over the world. America, thanks to Obama has lost its influence. Do not underestimate the effect that running guns to mexico drug lords to overthrow Mexico's legitimate government had. The Mexican government hates us with a black fever now for the thousands killed by those guns. Many in the government.

The goal of the NWO is the complete collapse of the old system of nations and sovereignty to be replaced by a world wide dictatorship. Look at Europe, look at the middle east. It's working, only America can stop it, but without reinstating the rule by law and the constitution instead of the rule by fiat we cannot stand. Trump prommises to rule by fiat. Ted promises to reinstate the Constitution.

I can only hope Ted will continue to keep his promise. I have no hope in Trump.`I am an old man, my adventures draw to a close. But in my years this I have found to be true, there is nothing new under the sun. Trump is a type, the same as Obama,and the war is not right or left, but up and down, between good and evil. We better wise up and fast, or there will be hell to pay and faster than anyone expects.

166 posted on 02/08/2016 1:40:05 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Not quite, but it is close second. But bearing false witness requires you know it to be false, before you repeat it.

God promises to judge each word, every word from our mouths. I trust in his Grace and in his Judgment. It is also why I depend on His promise through Jesus Christ. Without His saving grace, I am doomed.

But you may see a common theme in my posting, not so much as to defend Ted Cruz, but to bring balance to some of the over the top Ted bashing by pointing out the facts and logical fallacies. A lot of people are letting their emotions in the race rule their mouths and calling down judgment on themselves. Some moderate, some ignore.

Some are not slanderers, some choose to continue and become just that. Thinking the Internet gives them complete anonymity they press on forgetting God has their IP address.

Ted does not need my help, his exempelary record stands on its own, not perfect, but in this world what is? Donalds record stands in plain view too. The Bible warns that if you are Christs, the world will hate you because you are no longer of the world. Donald is clearly of this world, this thread shows Ted may actually be Christ's. I hope so. America has not had a chance to vote for a rightious man in decades.

167 posted on 02/08/2016 2:05:41 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Trump invented the Internet.

He can also fly and told Jesus how to live .


168 posted on 02/08/2016 3:12:58 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Rubio are sure losers. No more!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Cruz and other politicians are great at talking about things, however, actually getting something done is another story.


169 posted on 02/08/2016 3:17:27 AM PST by patq (Cruz is All Talk and No Action)
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To: SoConPubbie

How many bills did he sponsor to FORCE construction?

All he did was talk.


170 posted on 02/08/2016 3:45:36 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: TheThirdRuffian

& of course Cruz forgot to say that his wall would be not only be YUGE, but the best & the greatest ever!


171 posted on 02/08/2016 4:09:35 AM PST by pookie18 (9 months until the general election...)
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To: sparklite2
It sure is so that is why Trump should quit using Senator Cruz's well thought out strategies to end this illegal immigration problems

Trump needs to come up with his own ideas instead of riding on other qualified candidates coat tails but then he would not have the millions and millions if his pappy would not have given it to him.

OH wait, he WOULD have MORE money if he would have just put it into stock market and instead of being the master "business man" that he is and doing it on his own.

That's right. He lost more trying to be a businessman than what the stock market could have made him off of his pappy's money. Wow he is some type of shrewd businessman. A real ball of fire when sitting at the head of the table LEADING.

Trump is a disaster. The only thing he can run is his MOUTH and lil ladies off their land so that he can have a limo parking lot for his casino.

172 posted on 02/08/2016 4:31:43 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: bigbob
Doesn’t matter anyway, Trump OWNS The Wall

Trump does not own crap. I am probably more liquid than Trump is. His investors own Trump. He says no one owns Trump. That is pure unadulterated BS.

His investors own him lock, stock and barrel and he will move which ever way they blow him.

The money he uses to give to his campaign is not his, it is his investors. WHAT??? He is not owned by lobbyist you say. What is an investor to Trump right now?

173 posted on 02/08/2016 4:36:27 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: DoughtyOne
How many bills did Cruz introduce to build a 60’ high wall that Mexico would pay for?

About as many as Trump will sign

174 posted on 02/08/2016 4:37:16 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: SoConPubbie

But he didn’t make it the centerpiece of his campaign, did he.


175 posted on 02/08/2016 4:38:15 AM PST by jersey117 (CC)
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To: DoughtyOne

I’ve lost count. How many bills did Cruz introduce to build a 60’ high wall that Mexico would pay for?

Thanks in advance.
_____________________________________________________________

A bill was passed to build the wall some President choose not to build the wall.


176 posted on 02/08/2016 4:39:41 AM PST by Leto
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To: SoConPubbie
???????

What reason did Trump have to speak of a wall back then?

177 posted on 02/08/2016 4:44:27 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: WTFOVR

You folks are so disingenuous. You know damned well Cruz was stuck in a gridlocked Congress with an opposition President.

How the hell do you expect one Senator to build the wall on his own?
Better yet, how the hell do you expect Trump to build the wall on his own if he manages to fool enough of you into voting for him? His empty promises will be just that.

You sit and slam Cruz for stealing ideas or riding on Trump’s success, yet here is video proof otherwise concerning Trump’s main selling point.

Trump copied Cruz.

The loser currently at1600 has done SO much damage to this country, it begs the questions where to start regarding cleaning things up. It will take multiples presidencies to get things sorted out, yet you have the audacity to slam the best shot we have had of returning to the Constitution in decades, and you’d rather get behind a washed up, liberal hack reality TV celebrity than vote for a real conservative.

Ted Cruz may not be your cup of tea. Fine. But I’ll be damned if I’ll let you immune his amazing record unchecked.


178 posted on 02/08/2016 5:00:00 AM PST by plewis1250 (The pecking order: Christian, American, Conservative)
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To: mbrfl

Maybe because he isn’t an ‘all about me’ person? Someone that can let someone else have an idea?

Trump would love to be the originator of every good idea, fortunately he doesn’t have to, his supporters believe it for him.

Ted Cruz, Trumps head...trump supporters...rent free.


179 posted on 02/08/2016 5:05:59 AM PST by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: SoConPubbie

I have been on FR almost since the beginning. I have always thought of it as a “Conservative” site. Many different people but mostly conservative. This last 6 months with people foaming at the mouth for Trump has me embarrassed to be reading the comments. Trump (unless you are 20 years old) has always been a space cadet who is east coast liberal with an occasional right wing rant to shake things up. He never has been a conservative and now says read meat things to get people riled up and you buy it??? Ted Cruz is the man who is a conservative like we all agree with. There has never been any doubt about that since I first heard his name. Now you people think Trump will do anything thats not for Trumps own gain? Some entertain Rubio who got elected and then sold out immediately? I even hear Christie people trying to forget he damned near endorsed Obama? Unbelievable.


180 posted on 02/08/2016 5:28:20 AM PST by carjic (Media and GOPe are making the only people I trust not electable)
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