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On the Meaning of "Natural Born Citizen"
Harvard Law Review ^ | Mar 11, 2015 | Neal Katyal & Paul Clement

Posted on 02/07/2016 6:49:10 AM PST by Robert DeLong

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Let's put this issue to bed. I admit I was wrong, and I also admit that Ted Cruz qualifies as a "natural born" citizen. Same applies to Marco Rubio just by the fact he was born here.
1 posted on 02/07/2016 6:49:10 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3382639/posts?page=6#6


2 posted on 02/07/2016 6:52:07 AM PST by Mechanicos
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To: Walt Griffith; Bulwyf; JediJones; SmokingJoe; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; wintertime

Ping. Letting you know that I was wrong, and that Ted Cruz is a “natural born” citizen.


3 posted on 02/07/2016 6:56:43 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Robert DeLong

One is NATURALLY a US citizen when one cannot possibly be anything else.
Born here of citizen parents.
Natural born citizen.


4 posted on 02/07/2016 6:56:51 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Robert DeLong

Wait a minute!

Nobody has even asked the question as to whether his birth was cesarean or natural.

If it was cesarean then HE’S NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!


5 posted on 02/07/2016 6:57:46 AM PST by JJ_Folderol (Just my opinion and only worth what you paid for it.)
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To: Robert DeLong

By the new definition of simply being born a citizen, even if only on one’s mother’s side, makes every anchor baby , Winston Churchill, Monaco and Jordanian royalty eligible.

Not what the founders intended at all.


6 posted on 02/07/2016 6:59:03 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Robert DeLong

Cruz came here at age 4. Suppose he came here at age 30. Would you still call him natural born American citizen??


7 posted on 02/07/2016 6:59:17 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Lurkinanloomin

That’s true, but Ted was born in Canada, thus the confusion as to the meaning of “natural born” citizen and if it applied to Ted Cruz.


8 posted on 02/07/2016 7:00:24 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Unfortunately it appears to be the case. I thought like you did and even questioned Ted Cruz’s eligibility. Anchor babies are regarded as “natural born” citizens.


9 posted on 02/07/2016 7:03:17 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: JJ_Folderol

You’re wasting your talent posting here on FR. You need to hit the comedy circuit, now. Yuck yuck yuck ycuk yuck.


10 posted on 02/07/2016 7:05:35 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Robert DeLong

No mention of Obozo.


11 posted on 02/07/2016 7:06:07 AM PST by NCjim (Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.)
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To: Robert DeLong

There is only confusion among those who choose to be confused. Read the writings of the founders and it is clear.

Born here of citizen parents.
No divided loyalties.
No possiblity of being anything else.


12 posted on 02/07/2016 7:06:47 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Robert DeLong

They’ve been trying to do away with this requirement for years. Precedeny Obama has gone a long ways towards that goal.

The Usurper is ineligible.

Everyone in the District of Corruption knew it.

The Senate Resolution fig leaf for McCain was used to deflect from that.


13 posted on 02/07/2016 7:09:40 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: JJ_Folderol
Nobody has even asked the question as to whether his birth was (sic) cesarean or natural.

If it was (sic) cesarean then HE’S NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

"Macduff was from his mother's womb untimely ripped."

---Shakespeare, "Macbeth"

LOL

14 posted on 02/07/2016 7:10:29 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Robert DeLong

It won’t be “settled” until we finally get a decision from the USSC - until then we will always have this discussion whenever a “questionable” candidate is in the race.

As far as I can see, BOTH sides can present reasonable arguments. Considering the serious nature of the question, you would think that the courts would be anxious to provide an opinion and it makes me wonder that any possible excuse to NOT consider the issue has been used to avoid it like the plague.

So sorry - just because two lawyers think this makes no difference.


15 posted on 02/07/2016 7:10:54 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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The question that has not been definitively answered is: did Ted Cruz’s mother become a Canadian citizen when her husband says he did before Ted was born?


16 posted on 02/07/2016 7:13:48 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

You got it. Such a simple concept. A safeguard to the highest office in the land.

These days it seems there is a concerted effort to destroy the natural born clause. Removing the natural born clause will destroy this country just as sure as electing a communist would.

I will not, under any circumstances vote for Any candidate whose loyalties were divided at birth. Nor will I vote for any commie-socialist!


17 posted on 02/07/2016 7:14:01 AM PST by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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To: Robert DeLong

This Katyal/Clement article never touches on the relevant Supreme Court precedents. It’s been thoroughly debunked.


18 posted on 02/07/2016 7:16:53 AM PST by Cboldt
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So an Arab prince is eligible to run just because his mother is an american? Same with a duke which is right below king in ranking?


19 posted on 02/07/2016 7:18:54 AM PST by RummyChick
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Congress is empowered by the Constitution to 'establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization,' Art. I, S: 8. Anyone acquiring citizenship solely under the exercise of this power is, constitutionally speaking, a naturalized citizen.

Rogers v. Bellei, 401 U.S. 815 (1971)

20 posted on 02/07/2016 7:19:36 AM PST by Cboldt
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