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To: 9YearLurker

I was just about to somewhat accept that the Gang of 8 was a rookie mistake and Marco had learned a valuable life lesson and not to defy the will of the people (American people), but then I read the transcript of the Ramos interview he did for Spanish Language television.

I’ve come to a newer conclusion. Rubio is a liar.

Rush, please heed well this lesson.

After the 2014 elections and McConnell/Boehner (and now Ryan) double-cross, we hate being lied too. Worst political mistake ever, and deserves our full scorn and rejection.

Tell us the truth, no matter how it hurts your political chances, because when we found you outright lied, your career is OVER.


86 posted on 02/07/2016 7:18:57 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: Alas Babylon!

I posted this on another thread yesterday .... if you haven’t seen/read what is at the link, you should. I did post the entire Conclusion ..... pretty chilling, actually.

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Email released by Phyllis Schlafly ..... details Rubio’s record .... what he campaigned on & what he actually did when he got to the Senate ..... excellent summary with links:

Rubio Record (immigration)
http://www.eagleforum.org/immigration/rubio-record.html

From the “CONCLUSION”:

There is no single major distinguishing policy difference between Marco Rubio, John McCain or Lindsey Graham. They have the same trade policy, immigration policy and foreign policy. But on immigration most especially — the issue in which all four have invested the most — there is no daylight separating them.

The difference, then, is one of persona, not policy. And in the arena of immigration, this translates into a vital difference. The biggest change from McCain-Kennedy, which could not get out of the Senate, and the Gang of Eight — which was nursed along by conservative pundits despite being to the left of Kennedy’s bill — was the presence of Rubio. Rubio created the conditions necessary to produce a considerably more open borders bill: conservatives who were invested in the Rubio Brand provided no early pushback but accepted Kennedy’s old talking points, and Rubio gave red state Democrats the political space necessary to support it. This is how it got 68 votes in the Senate.

The stakes of course are raised considerably if Rubio is President or Vice President. Rubio would have a much, much better chance than Obama of getting an open borders bill through Congress — while Boehner could refuse to bring up Obama’s mass immigration/amnesty bill for vote in 2014, Ryan would never refuse Rubio’s bill. Rubio’s presence, as it did with the Gang of Eight, would create the cover for both certain Republicans and all Democrats to get behind a far more open borders plan. Given that nearly every House Democrat sponsored the Gang of Eight House version (including Pelosi and Gutierrez), Ryan would not need to gather that many additional votes (House GOP leaders might have refused Obama’s 2014 request for a vote but they would not refuse President Rubio’s).

All of which adds up to: there is likely no person in the United States of America in a better position to enact mass immigration legislation than a President Rubio — no one who could deliver more votes in both parties for open borders immigration. Senator Rubio is not Main Street’s Obama, he is Wall Street’s Obama: President Obama was a hardcore leftist running as centrist; Senator Rubio is a Wall Street globalist running as a tea party conservative.

Unlike other legislation, the effects of bad immigration policy cannot be repealed. They are forever. The Republican party would never nominate a pro-Obamacare candidate, and it must be an even stronger maxim that it should not nominate any candidate who is committed to a policy of mass immigration. Rubio wrote the Obamacare of immigration policies: a bill that would have eviscerated the middle class, plunged millions into poverty, legalized the most dangerous aliens on the planet, overwhelmed our schools and safety nets, and done irreversible violence to the idea of America as a nation-state. Rubio is the candidate of open borders, Obamatrade and mass immigration, making one last attempt to pull off one big con.


92 posted on 02/07/2016 7:39:16 AM PST by Qiviut (In Islam you have to die for Allah. The God I worship died for me. [Franklin Graham])
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To: Alas Babylon!

Never slip toward that again. Rubio was a massive pro-amnesty guy when he was in the FL legislature too. The big aberration was his lying to pretty he was “tea party” during his senate run, and now the bald-faced lie that he’d only consider it once the border is secure, if that’s the will of the people. (While speaking his true position in Spanish.)

He also (like, alas, Cruz) was an enabler on TPA/TPP, and he’s got the most Democrat-like tax position of any of the GOP candidates.

And I am beyond sick of candidates in either party trying to win votes by waxing poetic about their parents’ tough immigration or working class upbringing.

Spare me. I won’t vote for any candidates by accident of birth at either the top or the bottom.


99 posted on 02/07/2016 7:53:19 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Alas Babylon!

The strangest part about the Telemundo thin gee was that Rush not only played it but translated at some point, as I recall, (iffy at best) but I do know that he exposed that interview at some point.


218 posted on 02/07/2016 3:08:11 PM PST by acapesket (all happy now?)
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