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Carson dropout rumors dog Cruz in New Hampshire
Poltico ^ | 02/05/2016 | Kyle Cheney

Posted on 02/06/2016 4:36:46 AM PST by ironman

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To: MarDav

That would be good...should also fire those who directed this.


181 posted on 02/06/2016 11:21:15 AM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: ironman

So now you have other excuses because the Carson stuff really is too lame. Again, it is ok not to support Cruz. I get it that some people think he is too blunt and too unbending to deal with the establishment. But all this crying about how he played ‘mean’ is simply silly.

Maybe he should play a little nicer like President Dole, President McCain and President Romney did. That will make everyone like him more and be just as successful as those other ‘presidents’.


182 posted on 02/06/2016 11:29:04 AM PST by untwist (One Bad-Assed Mistake, America!)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

TIMELINE: How Cruz’s Camp Spun A Ben Carson Hoax During The Iowa Caucuses

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3392687/posts


183 posted on 02/06/2016 11:35:33 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Raycpa
"Blame it on a YouTube video"

No, no better yet, a Burgerbraukeller Beer Summit between Cruz and the Cruewz conference callers -- Jeff, Mark, Jason x2, phonejobbers et al -- wherein they advised Cruz to bless their Iowa election fraud.

Because, clearly, they have all been wronged lol...

184 posted on 02/06/2016 11:40:57 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Own it.)
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To: untwist

Must be tough and unexpected for Team Cruz to take so much incoming and be off message so badly. Will be interesting how the matter is addressed in the debate tonight.


185 posted on 02/06/2016 12:20:57 PM PST by ironman
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1507/29/cg.01.html

TRUMP: Excuse me. Otherwise, you don’t have a country. You don’t have a country. If people can just pour into the country illegally, you don’t have a country. But I would expedite the system.

BASH: When you say legal, do you mean legal status or can they be eligible for citizenship?

TRUMP: Legal status.

BASH: No citizenship?

TRUMP: No citizenship.

We will see. Later down the line, who knows what is going to happen, but legal status.
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Expedite the system ... not expedite illegals back in as legal immigrants!

No citizenship!!! BOOM!!!!

Trump has repeatedly said to back of line....what line? Line of those applying for work visas and taking the best ones as we need them but American jobs first, not as immigrants.

NO CITIZENSHIP !!!!


Now what has Ted Cruz said and done on this? .....

Cruz sought to both double the cap of legal immigration from 675,000 to 1.3 million and pushed for a dramatic increase of 500% for high-skilled H-1B visas to 325,000. “I think the number that Senator Cruz has raised is a bit high,” Sessions said with some alarm at the time. Now Cruz says he wants H-1B visas suspended for a 180 days ...whooie..do! More politicking bs!

When Sessions, the Alabama Republican, sought to issue stringent new caps on visas issued to foreigners from across the globe, Cruz pushed back.

“I intend to vote no on this amendment, and the reason is I think legal immigration is a fundamental pillar of our country,” Cruz said at the committee debate. “And I think, as a nation, we need to remain a nation that doesn’t just welcome, but that celebrates legal immigrants around this table.”

“High- skilled immigrants whether temporary or permanent are, I believe, the data demonstrates pro-growth,” Cruz said. “They generate jobs. They generate economic productivity.” Cruz supported an amendment offered by Chuck Schumer that would have, in part, provided additional up-front funding for implementing the bill — something that conservatives like Sessions and Utah Sen. Mike Lee opposed.

He backed an amendment by Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, that would, in part, clear the way for spouses of H-1B visa holders to work. He opposed repeated efforts by Grassley to clamp down on H-1B visas, including an amendment to audit annually one percent of companies that sponsor high-skilled visas.

In one plan, Cruz sought to eliminate what he considered “arbitrary” caps for four countries — China, India, Mexico and the Philippines. “I don’t think we should be discriminating against those nations.” The plan sought to consolidate various different high-skilled employment visas into a single visa, while increasing the number of family-based green cards.

...now that is Ted Cruz, why would anyone trust him on this issue now? Both Cruz and Rubio would go pro amnesty after getting elected, they have both fought for amnesty and right now they are saying what they have to to win nomination.



186 posted on 02/06/2016 12:46:56 PM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: FreeReign
Trump wants to permanently legalize foreign students who graduate from US schools. There are 200,000 of them every single year that he wants to permanently legalize. Add to that he wants a touch back legalization amnesty for millions!!!

BULLSHITE !! See post #186 Trump says, "no amnesty" touch is amnesty. FR is crawling with lies during this primary.

187 posted on 02/06/2016 12:55:41 PM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: free_life

See post #186 Trump says, “no citizenship” touch back is amnesty...it is citizenship. FR is crawling with lies during this primary.


188 posted on 02/06/2016 12:56:59 PM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: free_life
See post #186 Trump says, “no citizenship” touch back is amnesty...it is citizenship. FR is crawling with lies during this primary.

See my posts.

The big fat lies crawling around here are yours.

189 posted on 02/06/2016 12:58:26 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

Your posts are just your thoughts on Trump or Cruz, while mine give sources with actual words they both said.

Com’on provide sources for your claims...you can’t because they are bogus!


190 posted on 02/06/2016 1:01:08 PM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: free_life
The transcript that you posted, I've been posting here for months and it shows that Trump wants a legalization amnesty, and that maybe later he would want a citizenship amnesty.

So it's a yes to a legalization amnesty and a no, not now, but maybe later, to a citizenship amnesty. And there are other videos and links that show the same thing.

And before late July Trump was only for deporting the criminals and keeping the good ones in place for a legalization amnesty.

191 posted on 02/06/2016 1:07:30 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Lakeshark
When something is done that's wrong, sleazy, deceptive, ugly, and immoral, the tendency to pretend it's a dead horse only comes from those who did the wrong deed in the first place. Or from delusional supporters.
192 posted on 02/06/2016 2:15:09 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

“they did it right in front of Mrs. Carson at the caucus site she was at.. where have you been?”

And she corrected them - and the campaign STILL didn’t retract their lies.

That makes me think it was no accident, but done on purpose.


193 posted on 02/06/2016 2:17:26 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: FreeReign

Neither you nor Cruz even understands what sovereignty is. The “then we’ll have a conversation” plan Cruz clung to as long as he could illustrates that in his case. Your hopelessly clueless comments re what happens after we get all the foreign invaders out illustrates it in your case.


194 posted on 02/06/2016 6:09:54 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: FreeReign

Clearly your reading comprehension is poor.


http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1507/29/cg.01.html

TRUMP: Excuse me. Otherwise, you don’t have a country. You don’t have a country. If people can just pour into the country illegally, you don’t have a country. But I would expedite the system.

BASH: When you say legal, do you mean legal status or can they be eligible for citizenship?

TRUMP: Legal status.

BASH: No citizenship?

TRUMP: No citizenship.

We will see. Later down the line, who knows what is going to happen, but legal status.


Do you not understand amnesty is citizenship...that citizenship is amnesty?

Trump, “NO citizenship”! ..... that is no amnesty!

It’s like having a conversation with a fire hydrant.

You say, “legalization amnesty” ... there is citizenship and work visas, and if you are talking about work visas then Trump’s position is back of the line behind all those who are waiting to get work visas...and yes there will be a need for some getting work visas, no one is proposing zero foreigners getting work visas.

Trump is one who brought the issue of illegals and many other important issues to be the main issues of this primary and coming election, and in the beginning all the candidates were opposing him, ridiculing him. But Trump wouldn’t back down he forced the issue. Why? Because he is serious about ending this invasion of illegals and opposes amnesty!

And here we are because of Trump nationally discussing these issues everyone else wanted to avoid. And yet there are people like you still giving misinformation Trump even when faced with transcripts of what he has said. All of you, like you, are nuts and you do a disservice to our nation...no better than democrats...nuts!

You are either pro-amnesty or one of those who cuts his nose off in spite of his own face. Again nuts!!


195 posted on 02/06/2016 8:29:48 PM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: free_life

If they are here legally, they take jobs, cost welfare, ruin schools and pressure builds for citizenship
Trump says we will see.

Cruz opposes all this, no touch back amnesty the Donald is pushing.


196 posted on 02/06/2016 8:42:00 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: free_life
Do you not understand amnesty is citizenship...that citizenship is amnesty?

That is one of the dumbest things anybody as ever posted to me and I've been here a long time. There is citizenship amnesty and there's legalization amnesty. Most folks here know that.

Get back to me when you understand that.

Else don't post another clueless screed to me again, nitwit.

197 posted on 02/06/2016 9:02:45 PM PST by FreeReign
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