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I can/t believe I/m actually rooting for Karl Rove/s explanation....

Rove, not a Trump fan by any means, explained how the Cruz cheating could have cost Donald the election.

The Cruz Campaign tweeted: Press says Carson is going to take a break...... so tell all the Carson people to campaign with Cruz.

But Rove explains that at 7:53 the Carson people send out a release saying, We/re here. We/re staying in the race. We/re going to New Hampshire and South Carolina.

And at 8:20 Cruz campaign chief Steve King tweets deceptively: It looks like Carson is getting out of the race...... knowing full well this was inaccurate.

Cruz lies.....said we sent it to our team, insinuating this had to do with sending it out to staff members.

No, no, no...says Rove. They sent this to nearly 1,500 Cruz precinct captains.

Now why does that matter......the gap between Trump and Cruz is 6,239 votes. There are 1,500 precincts. Do the math... If that message cost Carson four votes per precinct to switch to Cruz, then Cruz beats Trump. If opportunistic Cruz hadn/t switched those four, he/d be the loser.

The evidence is all there.....Cruz was caught w/ his pants down.

7 posted on 02/04/2016 10:59:42 AM PST by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: Liz

Poor trumpster....now Karl Rove is ur hero......! lol

Will you low information, Kardashian voters ever learn..lol


12 posted on 02/04/2016 11:02:57 AM PST by swampfox101
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To: Liz

#trumpertantrum

Leaders win, losers whine.


13 posted on 02/04/2016 11:03:45 AM PST by Outlaw76 (Conservative, Showman, Rino. Make your choice wisely.)
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To: Liz

Your assumption and Rove’s is that Carson had four votes per precinct to lose. Also the assumption is that each of those votes, if they existed would go to Cruz alone. Since Carson’s numbers actually outperformed his expected numbers it is possible the efforts of Cruz’ people, presuming that made the effort, were a failure. And do we really need a POTUS who makes Al Gore’s reaction to Florida 2000 seem positively majestic.


20 posted on 02/04/2016 11:08:45 AM PST by xkaydet65
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To: Liz

with all due respect, does the candidacy require a fighter or a slacker? should the nomination go to a guy who flies home just at the time of the iowa caucus?

do you want a fighter or a slacker for a candidate? what good is working within a party if the party candidate will not fight at the last moment while people are still voting or deliberating?


49 posted on 02/04/2016 11:48:06 AM PST by SteveH
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To: Liz

I can/t believe I/m actually rooting for Karl Rove/s explanation....
Rove, not a Trump fan by any means, explained how the Cruz cheating could have cost Donald the election.

The Cruz Campaign tweeted: Press says Carson is going to take a break...... so tell all the Carson people to campaign with Cruz.
____________________________________________________________

Well let’s use a bit of logic here, we know that Rove is a GOPe stooge, can we agree on that?

We know that Rubio’s people were passing on the same info on the same CNN report, not as efficiently as his campaign org was weaker.

Yet Rove doesn’t mention the Rubio ‘fraud’, wonder why that is?

Today Carson is laying off 40% of hid staff perhaps he is going to fold up his tent very soon now.

Trump is collapsing nationally losing about 30% of his support nationally.

The GOPe realizes all of the above, Cruz has the funding to stay in the game to challenge Rubio their designated candidate all the way through.

They are focused on destroying the conservative with a chance to win.

That is Ted Cruz.


52 posted on 02/04/2016 11:52:58 AM PST by Leto
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To: Liz

Are you saying that had Cruz won by more there wouldn’t be an issue? Because people have yet to prove that a single person changed their votes based on this. The CNN report while never saying anything about Carson suspending his campaign did hint very strongly towards it. Now I have heard that Rubio has done the same thing.... but no calls or comments that why if rubio had switched just 17 votes in every precinct why Carson would have beat him. this is the same argument as i heard on here about how if only the Pats had scored one more touchdown per quarter they would have won.

First, maybe the Carson campaign shouldn’t have released the press statement until they had an idea of what the message they were sending would have.
Second, CNN should have done a better job of verifying the info, and maybe stating that the speculation of Carson dropping out was just that speculation. Now finally for the Cruz campaign maybe an argument can be made that they should have verified the validity of the story; however the story was announced just minutes before the polls opened and the doors closed, when it would shortly be too late to do anything about the info if it was correct. Now saying that 4 votes from every precinct was all it took; would it not be foolish to squander the little time you have to convince those voters, to fact check a story being pushed by an organization that is supposed to fact check stories before they air them. If news agencies don’t fact check they get sued, and the Cruz campaign worked from the false assumption that the story was valid. Is it okay to throw an election because all of the available info says one thing, but you have to check it cause it might not be true. Even Fox was saying that the Carson statement along with everything that has gone on had raised eyebrows. Fox just has more journalistic ethics than the MSM when it comes to differentiating facts from speculation...(notice I did not say opinion, because fox has an opinion and slants coverage towards that opinion).


55 posted on 02/04/2016 12:02:37 PM PST by PA-LU Student (https://www.tedcruz.org/l/ducking-donald/)
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To: Liz; All

The fake Ben Carson controversy should end here and now

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3392877/posts


58 posted on 02/04/2016 12:05:34 PM PST by SteveH
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To: Liz

.

see post #113 ...

Dr. Ben Carson LOST Iowa because he is a “politically inept, stupid presidential campaigner” who appears to be more interested in book tours and Egyptian Pyramid Grain Silos ...

than WINNING a brutal presidential election.

Dr. Ben Carson ... all smiles and whining ... very little LET’s WIN attitude.

.


114 posted on 02/05/2016 4:38:52 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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