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The Pat Buchanan Boys: The Trump voters aren't a new phenomenon.
National Review ^ | 02/04/2016 | Kevin Williamson

Posted on 02/04/2016 8:43:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Well no suprise NRO joins the “Unless you agree with me you are racist” clown posse of the Establishment media.

Umm NO, what we are saying is , as we said in 1980, “You have destroyed everything you have touched. Our country is worse off in every way then it was 10 years ago. Be gone you DC “politics as usual” whores. You have your chance and you failed, completely.”

This Politics of Failure Caucas, can go away while once again, the American People step in to fix the mess of everything the politically correct DC Political/Media/Business class created.


21 posted on 02/04/2016 9:05:27 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: SeekAndFind
..sans the white identity politics jab, this pretty well sums up the current phenomena IMO.

Go back further in history and see that demagoguery has often tapped into the fears and anger of those who feel helpless in trying times.

22 posted on 02/04/2016 9:05:47 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: The Toll

“Why? It’s the National Review. No need to read it beyond it’s initial insult to my demographic.”

Personally, I read the underlying article to have hard facts and statistics to fight the open borders idiots.

I’m Orthodox Jewish. I get sneered at and insulted getting on the subway (and that’s just the Reform Jews). It rolls off my back. I’m used to insulting tones.


23 posted on 02/04/2016 9:06:15 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: txhurl

Christie would be “allowed” to endorse Cruz even if he were inclined to do so.


24 posted on 02/04/2016 9:07:54 AM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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Brings back memories of the Pat Buchanan flame wars here. Might have been the first in history on FR.


25 posted on 02/04/2016 9:11:36 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: kabar

>> the lowest labor participation rates in 38 years.

No mystery there or need to blame legal immigrants: some folks won’t work if they get enough to survive.


26 posted on 02/04/2016 9:14:53 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Perhaps Mr. Williamson helped Mr. Obama form a similar opinion, 'bitter clinger' anyone?

'And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.'

27 posted on 02/04/2016 9:16:48 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: D-fendr
We have brought in 35 milliom legal permanent immigrants since 1990. In 1970 one in 21 was foreign born; today, it is less than one in 8, the highest in 105 years; and within a decade it will be one in 7, the highest in our history. In 1970 we had 9.7 million foreign-born; today it is 42.4 million. You cannot bring in such numbers and not affect the labor supply and jobs. We need to drastically reduce legal immigration from the current 1.1 million a year and the 640,000 guest workers annually.

Immigrants, legal and illegal, use the welfare system to a greater extent than the native born. We are importing poverty.

Immigrants vote Dem more than two to one. They are changing the electoral map placing the Dems on the road to being the permanent majority party. Keeping the status quo on legal immigration will ensure that happens.


28 posted on 02/04/2016 9:27:14 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Our birthrates without immigration are too low. Immigration, legal, is necessary for the economy.

What we have is too many incentives for people not to work for a living.


29 posted on 02/04/2016 9:29:05 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: SeekAndFind
American conservatives are rooted in classical liberalism, and their political philosophy is universalist: free enterprise and the rule of law for everyone.

That's what I want to see.

However, we need to have some conscience exemptions for newly imposed laws, such as pro-abortion laws, "anti-Muslim hate speech" laws, imposition of "gay marriage" or "transgenderism," etc. These things were not part of the Founders' design and are being imposed against all moral and ethical foundations. Many of the Founders were not Christians but were deists; however, they were still running on the vapors of Greco-Romano, Judeo-Christian morality and laws.

That has been lost, but the Constitution was based on it, so there needs to be protection for people who are part of that foundational viewpoint.

I don't think anybody is capable of restoring it, unfortunately, especially now that we have an ignorant leftist freak in the Vatican.

30 posted on 02/04/2016 9:34:17 AM PST by livius
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To: D-fendr
'Our birthrates without immigration are too low. Immigration, legal, is necessary for the economy.'

Worker productivity and automation offsets that need. And more thought needs to in that area. You think uber and such is messing up taxi drivers, just wait to truckers are out of work in ten to twenty years here, etc, etc.

31 posted on 02/04/2016 9:46:00 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: D-fendr
Our birthrates without immigration are too low. Immigration, legal, is necessary for the economy.

Pure BS. We have the lowest labor participation rates in 38 years. Our immigration policies don't bring in the best and brightest. If we had a labor shortage, wages would be going up, not down. We don't need mass immigration to boost our population numbers.

Given the numbers and composition of the legal immigrants we bring in, 87% are minorities as defined by the USG, we are rapidly changing the demographics of the country from predominantly non-Hispanic whites to predominantly minorities. By 2043 half of the population will be non-Hispanic white compared to 63% today and 89% in 1970. From the Census Bureau:

The U.S. is projected to become a majority-minority nation for the first time in 2043. While the non-Hispanic white population will remain the largest single group, no group will make up a majority.

All in all, minorities, now 37 percent of the U.S. population, are projected to comprise 57 percent of the population in 2060. (Minorities consist of all but the single-race, non-Hispanic white population.) The total minority population would more than double, from 116.2 million to 241.3 million over the period.

The nation’s total population would cross the 400 million mark in 2051, reaching 420.3 million in 2060.

What we have is too many incentives for people not to work for a living.

No, we don't have a shortage of workers, we have a shortage of jobs.

Government data collected in December 2014 show 18 million immigrants (legal and illegal) living in the United States who arrived in January 2000 or later. But only 9.3 million jobs were added over this time period. In addition, the native-born population 16 and older grew by 25.2 million. Because job growth has not come close to matching immigration and population growth, the share of Americans in the labor force has declined dramatically — a clear indication there is no labor shortage. Despite this, Congress is considering proposals to increase legal immigration even further; and during the last Congress the Senate actually passed the Schumer-Rubio bill (S.744), which would have doubled legal immigration and legalized illegal immigrants.1 Congress's disregard for the absorption capacity of the U.S. labor market has profound consequences for American workers.

32 posted on 02/04/2016 9:47:22 AM PST by kabar
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To: D-fendr

80% of LEGAL immigrants vote democrat. Almost all immigrants from the Middle East are on welfare. Don’t know where you get your info by LEGAL immigrants use more welfare than native born Americans.


33 posted on 02/04/2016 9:53:51 AM PST by LongWayHome
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To: kabar

Thanks for all the graphs.....these alienists have no understanding of what the reality of LEGAL immigration is doing to the USA....none.


34 posted on 02/04/2016 9:55:36 AM PST by LongWayHome
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To: kabar

Check the birth rates.


35 posted on 02/04/2016 10:07:56 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So if you support tariffs, lower immigration, and worry about the negative affects of foreigners, you are a neo-Nazi? Evidently, the Federalist Party were the first Nazis.


36 posted on 02/04/2016 10:27:35 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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Cruz voted TWICE against funding Veterans healths issues. Ted Cruz voted against providing $27 million for the Veterans Health Administration.....
http://correctrecord.org/the-gop-on-veterans-issues/


37 posted on 02/04/2016 10:30:15 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: rmlew

RE: So if you support tariffs, lower immigration, and worry about the negative affects of foreigners, you are a neo-Nazi?

Where in the article did it mention the Nazis?

Looks like Godwin’s Law has been proven once again.


38 posted on 02/04/2016 10:31:31 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: AuntB

RE: Cruz voted TWICE against funding Veterans healths issues. Ted Cruz voted against providing $27 million for the Veterans Health Administration.....

Therefore, what follows? We conclude from that that he’s again healthcare for Veterans?


39 posted on 02/04/2016 10:32:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“Therefore, what follows? We conclude from that that he’s again healthcare for Veterans?”

You said it, not me.


40 posted on 02/04/2016 10:36:08 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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