Posted on 02/01/2016 6:21:43 AM PST by xzins
Jumped the gun.
Wrong.
Worse than wrong. Not even wrong.
Not so much.
Double or nothing next week...can you hold off being a douche until then?
We’ll see what happens in NH!
Sorry. Couldn’t help myself.
The win is largely symbolic. But that does not mean it is unimportant. It is extremely important. Not only did Cruz pull out a win, he did so against what the polls were saying. This adds to the narrative that he is underestimated.
But the sad news is that Rubio appears to have kept his head above water enough to get some Iowa delegates, too. GOPe support will now consolidate behind him. Bush will stay in though, which will drag Rubio down.
Trump and Cruz need to mend fences and get back to standing together against the GOPe.
Oops. Apparently I was under the wrong impression that Iowa had a 20% threshold for getting any delegates. I guess Carson and Paul will get at least one delegate also.
Trump/Cruz
Trump/Cruz
“Worse than wrong. Not even wrong.”
Trump, Cruz, and Rubio are all tied with 5 delegates each, while Carson comes away with 1 delegate. Cruz and his supporters have come away from this in a delegate tie and a badly sullied reputation for vote fraud, with respect to the lies about Carson quitting the caucus and the mailergate fiasco. Win or lose, the supporters of Ted Cruz have lost the opportunity to elect a candidate who was at least a natural born citizen eligible to be President and relatively decent politician. By pushing ineligible candidates, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, you are denying voters an opportunity to elect one of the other candidates who at the very least are not violating Constitutional law while campaigning in this election. You are just digging a hole to perdition in the name of expediency.
:-)
We will see. There are a couple more primaries this year.
Quit beating a dead horse. Eligibility will NOT be a factor for Cruz or Rubio being president other than unnecessary harping on the issue which will either be quickly resolved or never come up at all when it matters. If it bothers you, by all means do not support either of them. But the issue has been endlessly discussed and the majority are NOT going to see it your way.
“Trump, Cruz, and Rubio are all tied with 5 delegates each”
That would be Cruz 8, Trump 7, Rubio 7, Carson 3, Paul 1, and Bush 1.
“Quit beating a dead horse.”
The issue of natural born citizenship and access to any nation’s most critical executive power can never constitute “beating a dead horse.” People tend to die in small and large numbers when a society allows this power to be unlawfully usurped.
“Eligibility will NOT be a factor for Cruz or Rubio being president other than unnecessary harping on the issue which will either be quickly resolved or never come up at all when it matters.”
Whether it occurs in this election cycle or another succession event a century or longer from now, what happened in 2008 to the present is going to play a major role in the further subversion and destruction of the U.S. Republic and the Bill of Rights. Obama, Cruz, Rubio and others will be confronted with this betrayal and its consequences down through history. It will not be forgotten, and it is only a matter of time before the people who are still subverting this fundamental principle will suffer punishment for their corruption, whether or not that includes the current perpetrators. This citizenship corruption is very serious business that is already costing Americans thousands of innocent lives.
“If it bothers you, by all means do not support either of them. But the issue has been endlessly discussed and the majority are NOT going to see it your way.”
On the contrary, public opinion flips over night very often, especially when they discover that they have been played as suckers and losers by these politicians. Natural born citizenship is an integral part of Natural law, which is not something you can conceal or deny indefinitely. The public is going to realize the truth and will be very unforgiving towards the people who deceived the to gain political power.
I have to concede this point. You have the right to continue making your case. Whether I am tired of debating it is irrelevant.
And it is an important enough issue that more agreement should be reached among conservatives.
While you are right that people sometimes change their minds, I am skeptical that anything close to universal agreement will be reached at any time in the future.
I had a conversation with a party chairman this morning about some upcoming election events. While on the subject of the GOP platform being drafted now, the topic of the Illinois Election Commission was mentioned. The chairman professed his ignorance and wanted to have nothing to do with the subject, saying he was leaving it up to the lawyers to settle. This attitude is hardly uncommon and demonstrates how easy it is for a small number of people can manipulate and control most of the citizens by their control of the party and party procedures. Regardless of the truth of a case, they simply do not want to be involved.
“Wrong.”
Wrong.
TRUMP WON!!!!!!!
Now, stop sending me hateful, ridiculous, immature posts.
“Now, stop sending me hateful, ridiculous, immature posts.”
Wrong again. Pointing out you are wrong is none of the things you claim.
Most of the hate toward Cruz originated from the far left, GOPe, MSM, and abortion proponents. It has filtered over here to naive conservatives and phony conservatives.
“Who are they? Right to life, pro-assault weapons, anti-gay — if that’s who they are, they have no place in the state of New York because that’s not who New Yorkers are.” — Andrew Cuomo
It is people like this who are “hateful, ridiculous, immature”. Whose side are you on?
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