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To: unlearner; Travis McGee
God and Allah are NOT the same. Allah was/is the moon god of pagan ancient Arabs. He doesn't have a son. He is a god of pain, suffering, vindictiveness, treachery, barbarianism, murder, rape, misogyny, etc. He is the created God of Muhammad's demonic inspired madness.

Jehovah God is the eternal God of creation, truth, hope, love, justice and mercy. And yes, judgment. He is the One true, great God, and his son is Jesus, the Christ.

As for Arab Christians, they are dhimmis - Melkite Greek Catholic Patriarch: "No one defends Islam like Arab Christians"

27 posted on 02/01/2016 9:52:59 PM PST by Perseverando (For Progressives, Islamonazis & other Totalitarians: It's all about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: Perseverando

“Allah was/is the moon god of pagan ancient Arabs.”

Reality is not made up of how you want things to be. It is how things are. And facts are stubborn things.

There is one word for God in Arabic, and it is “Allah”. If you read your Bible you will find that God is the one who divided the languages of the nations. He has reserved for Himself a title in every language. In Arabic, that title is “Allah”.

You can rant all you want about how you imagine reality to be or how you would like it to be. It does not matter. You can be angry at God for creating Arabs. You can be angry at Him for allowing Islam to exist. When He chooses Islam, will be gone in an instant. And it will be gone when God judges the world in the Day of the Lord.

There have been Arabic speaking Jews since before the time of Christ. They called God “Allah” in their native tongue, that is, the language that God ordained for them to be brought up speaking.

On Pentecost, it specifically says that Jews from Arabia (among all the others there) heard the message about God in their native language. At that time, the only word for God in Arabic was “Allah”. This means that Jesus was proclaimed to be God’s (”Allah’s”) Son in Arabic long before there were any English-speaking Christians.

“He is a god of pain, suffering, vindictiveness, treachery, barbarianism, murder, rape, misogyny, etc. He is the created God of Muhammad’s demonic inspired madness.”

I am not trying to insult you or put down your education, but you are completely failing to grasp something very basic and fundamental. The rest of the world does not necessarily speak the language you grew up speaking. Christianity is not an English-only faith. English speakers came very late in the history of Christianity.

Do you understand that a person can be a Christian without first learning to speak English?

You are advocating for Christianity. Do you not know that the Gospel of Christ was commanded to be proclaimed to all nations and languages? Do you understand that those who enter Heaven will be believers in Christ from ALL nations and languages?

Revelation 7:9
After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

The fact is that the Jewish and Christian scriptures were translated into Arabic BEFORE Islam existed. And the word for God was the same then as now. In Arabic it is “Allah”.

This may bother you. It may make things more complicated than you like. You may wish that you could simply insult God’s title in Arabic without simultaneously insulting Christians and Jews who are Arabic. But you cannot.

And you really need to stop with your idiotic and blanket insults of Arab Christians because their God will not be happy with you. No true Christian is going to stupidly and foolishly call true Arabic Christians “dhimmis”.

You might as well insult Stephen or the martyred apostles for having an inferior Christianity to your superior one. There are Christians who have been tortured and murdered and even watched their own children tortured and murdered rather than deny Christ. And these same martyrs called God “Allah”, not because they are dhimmis or afraid of offending Muslims. It is because it is a simple fact that “Allah” is the title God chose for Himself in that language.

Just because Islam stole God’s title to promote an errant theology does not change who God is. There are lots of people who have come in God’s name and Jesus’ name who have promoted false theology. We do not denigrate the English titles or names for God just because some false religions have abused their names. I suggest you rethink your flawed position.


28 posted on 02/01/2016 10:25:18 PM PST by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: Perseverando
God and Allah are NOT the same. Allah was/is the moon god of pagan ancient Arabs.

True. At the time the Arabs had 360 different gods. Mohammed chose one of them to be the god of his new religion. The moon god.

31 posted on 02/03/2016 11:18:27 AM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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