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To: Lurkinanloomin

What if your parents are United States Ambassadors living in the other country when you are born?

What if your father is an admiral in the Navy when you are born in a Panama hospital?


18 posted on 01/30/2016 4:54:53 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Flavious_Maximus
Ambassadors and diplomats carry US soil around with them, figuratively and "legal fiction" wise.

The admirial's son is a naturalized US citizen.

22 posted on 01/30/2016 4:58:16 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Flavious_Maximus

“What if your parents are United States Ambassadors living in the other country when you are born?”

Diplomatic immunity shields the child from being subject by birth in a foreign sovereign’s jurisdiction to an obligation of allegiance to the foreign sovereign. So long as both parents have only one undivided allegiance to the sovereign United States, the child born under diplomatic immunity is also born with an undivided allegiance to only the United States and is thereby a natural born citizen.

“What if your father is an admiral in the Navy when you are born in a Panama hospital?”

John McCain was born in a hospital in Colon, Panama. He was not born in the U.S. Panama Canal Zone. It makes no difference whether John McCain was born in the U.S. Panama Canal Zone, Panama, or any other place abroad and outside the jurisdiction of the United States; because any such person alien born abroad, with or without a U.S. citizen parent or citizen parents, can acquire U.S. citizenship only by naturalization at birth or after birth. Such naturalized U.S. citizens are not natural born citizens and are not eligible to be President. Likewise, Ted Cruz was born abroad with Canadian citizenship, and he acquired U.S. citizenship by naturalization at birth by the authority of the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952.


34 posted on 01/30/2016 5:19:38 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Flavious_Maximus; Cboldt

cboldt gave you the correct answer at #22


42 posted on 01/30/2016 5:24:45 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

I can’t imagine the Natural born means so little.

In Cruz’s case, one parent was not a US citizen, both parents were living in Canada and remained living in Canada for 4 years after his birth. They were not attached to the US military or government for employment, they moved there of their own free will. This is different than 2 parents on vacation having a suprise birth unintentionally on foreign soil or of course military or ambassadors abroad which should be considered ‘American soil’

In conclusion, he is not a damn NB citizen! How can he be one? Where is the line?


141 posted on 01/30/2016 8:28:55 AM PST by bigtoona (Lose on amnesty, socialism cemented in place forever Trump is the only hope.)
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