Posted on 01/30/2016 4:20:28 AM PST by ironman
‘An echo chamber gets pretty boring.’
Amen to that!
But it’s also fun to watch a kook shouting into an echo chamber.
The old guy in me still thinks it’s really awsome we can communicate like this. Typing directly to each other.
cboldt gave you the correct answer at #22
He was born here and both of his parents were citizens at the time of his birth
Trump went after Obama regarding his birth certificate. Just being consistent.
Having an eligible president is an important fundamental question.
Cruz is an awsome patriot, but he could be the source of discord until ...
well ... a constitutional amendment?
Trumpbot Central would beg to observe that it’s what Trump is standing for, not who’s wanting Trump, is going to be what gets Trump either support or lack thereof in the end. And he hasn’t done that terribly bad. He’s got color.
No, The GOP is responsible for not challenging Obama in exchange for McCain’s fig leaf Senate Resolution
It's current law...
I don’t vote for ineligible candidates, so I did not vote for either Obama or McCain. The only eligible canddate on my ballot was Bob Barr.
If one receives their citizenship by operation of law, one is a naturalized citizen.
Good point.
Stupid garbage is refreshing.
You need something more... you need the inability of Congress to strip his status.
I guess like the misguided optimist who happily dug through a box of manure to find the pony which had to be underneath it.
It is accurate to say he need not petition US Consulate. He or his parents could, in the alternative, petition the INS or whatever the agency was at the time. State Department is not the only agency with the power to adjudicate claims of citizenship for aliens born abroad to US citizen parent or parents.
It’s an “echo chamber” because Cruz has done absolutely nothing to settle the question of his eligibility (and, no, saying it’s a silly question doesn’t answer it).
I don’t know if he is eligible or not, but if he is then would it be true that a Iranian Muslim could take an American wife. Take her to Iran, Syria wherever and have a child there. Let’s say they move to America when the child is 15. If Cruz is eligible to be president so would this fictional person.
We are being played yet again by the entire education-media-government liberal cabal.
Why can we never just not try to kick the damn football.
Both forms have the same function under the law.
It is clear from the Canadian Citizenship Act of 1946 that Cruz is a natural born citizen of Canada.
No one has explained how someone can be a natural born citizen of more than one country at birth.
No one has explained how a person born with triple nationality meets the natural born requirement, with no foreign allegiances, of the intent of the US Constitution—see Jay to Washington 1787.
No one has explained how someone not born in America can be natural born, as by definition they were born under someone else’s jurisdiction. To this, Vattel made an exception—if you were born to a soldier serving out of the country in the service of the King to citizen parents, you were natural born. John McCain fit this description, as his father was in service to the nation and his parents were citizens.
Ted Cruz’s American citizenship comes from law—the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952. His mother met certain age and residency requirements prior to his birth. If he was born 40 years earlier, his mother could not even have passed her American citizenship to him. Therefore, no one disputes he has American citizenship, but that does not equal the pedigree of natural born.
There is nothing in the 14th Amendment that speaks to the term natural born, nor does it, nor can it, change the requirement for President. The author of the 14th Amendment, John Bingham, made it clear that the Amendment had nothing to do with being natural born.
We were taught in school 50 years ago that natural born meant born in the country of two American parents.
We have allowed that to now mean to be born in the country of one American parent(Obama—regardless of the fake birth certificate).
Now we want to devolve the definition to not even being born in America, of three nationalities, being a natural born citizen of another country and one American parent.
Nope, no divided loyalties are even possible there.
Let’s devolve it one step further for Rubio—born in America of no American parents, of nationals of another land.
Heck, let’s just make it open to all kids born anywhere in the world, even test tube babies of unknown origin. A true citizen of the world.
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