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LA City council is apparently having difficulty paying grocery stores to locate in South LA.

The grocery store business is concerned about parking, safety concerns, and traffic safety in getting the delivery trucks in and out.

But academically trained urban planners know better. It is apparently better to have a vacant lot, than to have a grocery store in the neighborhood.

1 posted on 01/28/2016 1:42:13 PM PST by jeannineinsd
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Broadway and 94th South LA photo grocery battle_zpswut9bb4x.jpg

Broadway and 94th, South Los Angeles

2 posted on 01/28/2016 1:48:32 PM PST by jeannineinsd
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Sounds like the city councilman was just looking to create more opportunities for the predators in his district.


3 posted on 01/28/2016 1:49:01 PM PST by PAR35
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The only surprise in this story is that some grocery store executive was seriously entertaining sinking substantial money and effort and reputational risk into bringing a large grocery store to crime-ridden South L.A. Its the definition of insanity -- a business thinks that it will get positive press for something like this but the ungrateful residents will soon start stealing from the place and the ungrateful press will pile on with stories about how the chain is ripping off poor inner city blacks with higher prices than in its suburban stores. Then there is this gem of a quote:

Grocery stores "tend to believe, rightly or wrongly, that they need a certain number of parking spaces in front to succeed," Rosenfeld said

Uh, do you know the reason that they think this, genius? Because they DO need a certain number of parking spaces to succeed! They aren't stupid. Parking is one of the most absolutely critical elements of any project that isn't in a wealthy, downtown residential or business district of a city. They need the car traffic to survive. Yet this Rosenfeld is smarter than the guys who do this for a living.

4 posted on 01/28/2016 1:49:43 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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>>Grocery stores “tend to believe, rightly or wrongly, that they need a certain number of parking spaces in front to succeed,” Rosenfeld said. “They don’t always want what an academically trained urban planner would want.<<

Rightly of Wrongly?????

If I didn’t know that was real, I would swear this was from the Onion.

If the business is wrong they cease to exist. If an academic idiot is wrong, he gets promoted through longevity.


5 posted on 01/28/2016 1:51:19 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Don't mistake my silence for ignorance, my calmness for acceptance, or my kindness for weakness)
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Grocery stores "tend to believe, rightly or wrongly, that they need a certain number of parking spaces in front to succeed," Rosenfeld said. "They don't always want what an academically trained urban planner would want... They believe they know their business best."

Unspoken: "Whereas we, as government busybodies, know EVERYONE'S business best"

6 posted on 01/28/2016 1:51:58 PM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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They believe they know their business best

Fully that supermarket people would believe they know their business better than gov't people, particularly gov't people coming out of South Los Angeles. And that's another thing I love about. 94th and Broadway would be considered South-Central Los Angeles to anyone who has visited that area. It is north of the 105 and south of the LAPD's 77th St. Division which is also located on Broadway. In another words, not a good area. The only non-residential properties located in that area are motels, liquor stores, churches and mortuaries.

9 posted on 01/28/2016 1:54:00 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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You can always tell a Libtard.

But you can’t tell him much.


10 posted on 01/28/2016 1:54:36 PM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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I predict if Sanders is elected, one of the things we’ll see is “Bernie-Marts”, government-run stores in disadvantaged neighborhoods.


13 posted on 01/28/2016 1:57:42 PM PST by dfwgator
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“Other areas such as Culver City set standards for new development, she said. “Are we saying that South L.A. shouldn’t have a say?”

Suit yourself.


14 posted on 01/28/2016 1:59:12 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (I apologize for not apologizing.)
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>it sharply opposed moving the building because it would create “a hiding space for criminal activity.”

Idiots. Then police your Dindu Nuffins and illegals.


18 posted on 01/28/2016 2:11:50 PM PST by soycd
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19 posted on 01/28/2016 2:13:06 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Free Republic Caucus: vote daily / watch for the thread / Starts 01/20 midnight to midnight EST)
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21 posted on 01/28/2016 2:17:47 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Free Republic Caucus: vote daily / watch for the thread / Starts 01/20 midnight to midnight EST)
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We had a local grocery store that wanted to rebuild. The entire thing was held up because the docks would be 10 feet closer to a house and the owner complained that the early morning delivery of milk would interrupt his sleep.

They offered to buy the house, they offered a sound wall, they offered to have the delivery at the furthest dock which would be further away then they were currently offloading the milk.

Nope. Nope. And Nope.

Finally they said, okay then, we will shut the store down.

The screeches of outrage were heard on Pluto.

22 posted on 01/28/2016 2:20:33 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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In Orange County several decades ago, a new shopping mall was in the planning stages, on land owned by the Segerstrom farming family.

One proposal would place the center a few blocks to the north in the city of Santa Ana, while another proposal would put it a little to the south in the city of Costa Mesa.

Santa Ana “planners” saw it as an opportunity to get the developer to pay for streets, parks etc. They made strict demands, for approval.

Costa Mesa planners asked the developer if the city could do anything to help get it built.

Needless to say, it wound up on a site in Costa Mesa along the planned 405 freeway, and today stands as one of the iconic centers in the world.

This scenario with Santa Ana repeated years later, for siting of a professional basketball/hockey facility, with the winner this time Anaheim. (they tried three sites in Santa Ana before it was over)


23 posted on 01/28/2016 2:23:35 PM PST by truth_seeker
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“Grocery stores ‘tend to believe, rightly or wrongly, that they need a certain number of parking spaces in front to succeed,’ Rosenfeld said. ‘They don’t always want what an academically trained urban planner would want... They believe they know their business best’.”

Nah, the bureaucrats always know best. You can’t expect a businessman to know more about his own business than a hack like this dispensing red tape. No wonder government is a complete failure.


26 posted on 01/28/2016 2:28:50 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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“They don’t always want what an academically trained urban planner would want... They believe they know their business best.”

You Think!


27 posted on 01/28/2016 2:29:46 PM PST by NathanR
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Better negotiated a 20 year pre-paid P & C insurance with rioting and vandalism clause and see how much the city wants to put up for that.


28 posted on 01/28/2016 2:31:07 PM PST by Fhios (FR inception date 2015. I must be a mole for whoever I'm currently supporting.)
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Grocery stores "tend to believe, rightly or wrongly, that they need a certain number of parking spaces in front to succeed," Rosenfeld said. "They don't always want what an academically trained urban planner would want... They believe they know their business best."

How dare they! Particularly when the academically trained urban planner had an Affirmative Action scholarship to some Ivy League school.


31 posted on 01/28/2016 2:38:14 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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“But academically trained urban planners know better.”

Yes, I wonder what academy “trains” urban planners. Or are they sorta like community planners. I can see how wonderful Chicago is since they had such a fabu community planner.

I’m sure the people who have run supermarkets know a little more about running supermarkets than academia trains its experts.


37 posted on 01/28/2016 3:05:11 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy, Cruz that is.)
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The “you didn’t build that” consortium will reduce your grocery store to a pile of rubble in under 2 years.


41 posted on 01/28/2016 5:38:48 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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