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Sorry for the doom'n'gloom post but while a lot of good people really had their hopes up that we'd be doing better by now, it's looking more and more like the bad monetary policy that's been added to years of bad fiscal policy is just too much for even America.
1 posted on 01/28/2016 4:43:53 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

I visited a company yesterday that has been fattened by the fracking boom. the machines were idle and there was a gloomy feeling about the place

they just didn’t have any orders to keep the lines running.


2 posted on 01/28/2016 4:48:58 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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A major recession will throw a wrench in the demodogs raise taxes platform


3 posted on 01/28/2016 4:50:14 AM PST by Fai Mao (Just a tropical gardiner chatting with friends)
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To: expat_panama
monetary policy that's added to years of bad fiscal policy

And it's not ending. It seems that now cities are doing massive construction endeavors to attract business, tourists/conventions, and high-income housing. That bubble has to burst.

With the disappearing middle class, the problem is that US citizens are in an even deeper hole. How many people could save for their future needs, even if they wanted to? That requires a stable job and an income that keeps up with expenses.

I'm wondering how much disposable income has disappeared in the US.

I'm not atypical. In my peer group (retires who have a responsible plan for future needs) everybody is cutting back where ever they can. Necessities keep taking more income...and lower gas prices don't mean much if you don't do much driving.

Does anyone have a plan to restore the middle class? Without that, it's hard to imagine that there's a solution.

4 posted on 01/28/2016 4:57:40 AM PST by grania
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Good morning all!  It's a uniquely good morning for me because my slip-up yesterday turned out OK.  What happened is that yesterday was actually an IBD 'follow-through' day and the contraction was over --we're now officially in a "confirmed uptrend".  My missing the opportunity was the bad news.  The good news is yesterday stocks plunged big time in rising volume --neat huh? 

Futures traders are confused too, these traders happy and these scared.  For stocks.  For metals they're expecting another +0.66% with gold and silver up to new highs: $1,119.80 and $14.50!

Oh yeah, today's 'claims day':

8:30 AM Initial Claims
8:30 AM Continuing Claims
8:30 AM Durable Orders
8:30 AM Durable Goods -ex transportation
10:00 AM Pending Home Sales
10:30 AM Natural Gas Inventories

News:  The Taxing Will Continue Until Morale Improves.  I'm sure there's more but that's as far as I could get.

5 posted on 01/28/2016 5:01:21 AM PST by expat_panama
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Recession? Try Depression.


11 posted on 01/28/2016 5:18:21 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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P!


13 posted on 01/28/2016 5:23:28 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: expat_panama

Or all the efforts to pump up the fake numbers are deflating, revealing the true bad situation never ended.

I think the Great Recession of 2007 never ended, as proven by decreasing workforce participation rates and stagnant/declining wages.

The “good” numbers were propped up by borrowed money and welfare transfers.


15 posted on 01/28/2016 5:25:14 AM PST by tbw2
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I was not aware we emerged from the last recession, I heard rumors we had but personally I have seen no evidence, I also heard there was zero inflation I’ve seen no evidence of that either, but what do I know; as the powers that be suggest I’m just to ignorant to understand that my wallet has not really getting thinner, to stupid to know it is more complicated than that, the thickness or lack thereof of my wallet has nothing to do with anything.


18 posted on 01/28/2016 5:32:03 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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I would put the chances of recession at 100% the day after a republican is sworn into the presidency

Just imagine what will be revealed when all the lies and manipulating of economic data that covered obama for the past 8 years - comes to an end

This inevitable economic catastrophe to me transcends “ conservatism” and the only man I see capable of keeping us together and moving toward a solution is Trump and the team he’ll assemble


21 posted on 01/28/2016 5:40:35 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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Cause in one year a new POTUS will have to start dealing with the REAL numbers.


28 posted on 01/28/2016 6:04:58 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: expat_panama

They mention recession as a setup for the soon to be elected republican candidate. If Hill or Bern are elected, the economy will straighten out (magically) overnight.


29 posted on 01/28/2016 6:09:33 AM PST by MortMan (I am offended by those who believe they have a right not to be offended.)
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