Posted on 01/27/2016 7:04:30 PM PST by PittsburghAfterDark
Nothing new. EBT walks to the mailbox goes to the bank all by itself.A knows to do it however often... Now more frequently as there appears to be no end of month lull.
I was wrong. There are some illegals in Japan and most of the estimated 65,000 are from South Korea.
At first, the operation appears to be that of regular hydroponic cultivation. In fact, however, carbon dioxide resulting from an electricity generation process involving gas that has originated from sewage sludge is being blown onto the tomato seedlings through greenhouse ducts -- with increased concentrations of carbon dioxide around the seedlings stimulating the process of photosynthesis.
In addition, the seedlings are introduced to treated sewage that includes elements such as phosphorous. The first experiment of its kind anywhere in the world, this process has resulted in crop yields that are around 30 percent higher than normal.
The point is that many hydroponic operations will be using nitrogen fertilizers made from wastewater and other organic sources in order to lower costs. The use of organic materials will not be eliminated from agriculture, although methods of processing such materials should be done safely. Global corporations will not succeed in monopolizing agriculture or creating source material scarcities for long. Even if sources of materials are highly regulated with gate-keeping laws, open source development efforts can overcome such regimes.
ok sorry it looks like a hydroponic farm to me but i’m american. its japan but it’s not a farm in a yard it’s in a closed factory the point is the robots are woking in a shed not in a yard. and if they use poop they might have problems. i don’t use poop only chemicals no urea etc.
Thanks. I didn’t mean to convey that the Japanese company is using any hazardous waste directly on plants or to say that the company is using fertilizers processed by any particular method. Spread hasn’t revealed that information as far as I can find.
But the point was that waste products are processed for use in many operations that are assumed to use fertilizers from variants of the Haber process.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haber_process
There’s nothing fundamentally wrong with fertilizer from the Haber process and other nutrients from international shipping except for increasing fuel and environmental costs. There’s also nothing wrong with properly processing bio-wastes for use in fertilizing farms. Here’s a simple example of the science behind doing so safely with the most difficult kind of waste for smaller, more labor-intensive operations.
http://humanurehandbook.com/contents.html
If followed strictly and properly, it neutralizes all of the microbial and parasite bugs (even roundworm eggs). True that it’s labor-intensive in many existing small operations (composting, heat, etc.), but it doesn’t have to be. The processing of bio-waste products can be automated. It can also be further isolated from chances of human error by way of improvements in methods and recordkeeping.
I don’t plan to use human manure, but it does show that there are ways to process such difficult waste for agriculture. Manure from cattle is much easier to work with, only requiring plowing, adequate time before planting and adequate barriers to keep wildlife out (fresh manure hazard from elk, antelope, etc.).
Hope you’ll find the information to be interesting. Open source group efforts can be really educational (including homebuilt “robotic” farming equipment solutions). I’m no high-tech research scientist. Only did high school vocational agriculture, agricultural work in the past, continuing study and hope to start growing vegetables on a somewhat larger scale than a home garden here, on a place on the Rockies.
There’s really no outdoor season here, at over 9,000 feet, with summer temps often going down near 20, F, hailstorms every July, jackrabbits, prairie dogs, extreme numbers of tuberworm moths and the like (too cold for the notorious potato beetle, problematic fungi, etc.). The greatest challenge is that of the costs for fencing, covers, other barriers and insect remedies.
Potatoes might be one answer, because they can get fairly huge here. But building to keep seed potatoes in great abundance might also be a difficult challenge with winter temps going below minus-50 degrees, F (ugly micro-climate here), once in a while, high winds and spraying ice (ice dunes). Planning and building regulators would be on any attempt to build a cellar like flies on ____ with dollar signs in their eyes. Also, a potato operation would need to be rather larger for profits.
As for animal husbandry, it appears that yaks are the only livestock that will survive winters, and those, only with hay bought from an area with a better climate for 4-5 months per year (deep ice often too hard for them to get through, very low hay growth, dry climate).
Winter shelters for other kinds of livestock (e.g., goats) are heavily taxed for the local “open space” policy. Summer (seasonal) range steers are preferred by local governments (tourism, appearances, movie stars,...), and bi-yearly transportation costs for the long trips to buy and sell cattle are high. And branding is mandatory.
But I like challenges. Don’t you? And there are always good and legal ways around regulations, fees, taxes and other obstacles. We find the ways.
Urea: now, that’s a whole interesting topic in itself. ;-)
Gee Whiz: Human Urine Is Shown to Be an Effective Agricultural Fertilizer
By Dr. Mercola
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/09/28/human-urine-fertilizer.aspx
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urea
Urine as fertilizer
at Permies (permaculture)
http://www.permies.com/t/4876/organic/Urine-fertilizer
But it should also be properly used, and prior study is recommended.
You might also be interesting in the Free Republic weekly (Friday) gardening thread posted by greeneyes.
where i might want to join him
also in soap and face creams check the labels. itw one reason i make my own.
I don’t think they have any. Unlike the US, Japan actually secures its borders and controls immigration.
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