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So there you have it: the whole ideology of assisted reproduction in one of its earliest defences -- the irrelevance of the institution of marriage, eugenics, the irrelevance of the father, faith in technology and trust in doctors.

And this is what the left has wanted all along.

1 posted on 01/25/2016 9:26:45 AM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 01/25/2016 9:28:13 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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The dark past of anonymous sperm donation

That headline is a microagression.

3 posted on 01/25/2016 9:32:43 AM PST by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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"half-witted, evil-inclined,
disease-disposed offspring".

4 posted on 01/25/2016 9:32:55 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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I’ve always been against it.


5 posted on 01/25/2016 9:33:04 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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But I thought you wanted more babies. This anti-abortion business is trickier than I thought.
6 posted on 01/25/2016 9:33:42 AM PST by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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Dr. Hard is providing the sperm?

Honestly you just can’t make this stuff up.


7 posted on 01/25/2016 9:35:21 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Some babies grow in a peculiar way
It changed, it grew, and everybody knew
Semi-mojo
Who’s this kinky so-and-so?


8 posted on 01/25/2016 9:35:21 AM PST by dfwgator
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Were any of the donors seamen.

I'm sorry.

5.56mm

10 posted on 01/25/2016 9:38:02 AM PST by M Kehoe
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Have a friend whose husband had a genetic kidney disease and a the kidney transplant medication left him with very low, immobile sperm. She used ART (pretty sure it was a med school student’s sperm) and now their son is handsome, brilliant, loves his father dearly, and he carries his mother’s good looks and bright IQ. They are religious Jews and it was important for their child to be undeniably Jewish by mother’s blood line. I am sorry that he doesn’t know half of his medical history, but he doesn’t carry his father’s kidney problems either. The father’s sister, with the same kidney disease, adopted and got a child of Irish descent, not Jewish except through conversion. Not worked out so well..... Always a trade-off.....


22 posted on 01/25/2016 10:02:44 AM PST by MHT (,)
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I use to live in Berlin. There was lots of anonymous sperm donation going on all over the place.....


29 posted on 01/25/2016 10:32:05 AM PST by Organic Panic
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“Anonymous Sperm Donation” is to rape as

“Undocumented American” is to illegal alien


30 posted on 01/25/2016 10:32:47 AM PST by Organic Panic
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And rendering the child as having no right to know who his father is was the first step in dehumanizing children before they are born (or conceived).

This is the very heart of the abortion dilemma. Newly created person were/still are considered by default to have NO RIGHTS WHATSOEVER. They are not considered a separate autonomous person with rights separate and distinct from their parents.

As long as this is the case, there is no logical case to be made disallowing abortion (or experiments on a fetus, etc). As this premise was set long ago (with bastard laws etc), the pro-abortion side has logic on their side.

Note I said they have logic on their side, not morality. Because the morality was dismissed in the first place where a newly created person lost their humanity to the whims of the parents ... long before a woman and fetus landed on an abortionist’s table.

This is why I say we need a holistic approach to abortion. There can be no ground given on the rights of people who are pre-born. Their parents cannot give the right away ... not the father ... not the mother.

This whole thing started when men could instigate conception (by rape, deception, using differential social status ... or simply disappearing) without claiming any responsibility for the result. When children were declared bastards, without any right to the knowledge of who is their father ... at that point, the inevitable end game was abortion (and infanticide which preceded it).

For centuries now children have had NO RIGHTS to know who their parents are in adoption situations. This comes from the premise that a newly created person’s rights are incontrovertibly secondary to adults, both their parents and the State which declares that they have no right to the information on their origin.

Bastard Nation is a good source of information on the logical links between identity and personhood.


38 posted on 01/25/2016 12:22:10 PM PST by Lorianne
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They leave a light on now.


39 posted on 01/25/2016 12:41:16 PM PST by Rebelbase (A new batch of harpies has hatched in time for the 2016 election.)
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