Further, what was the claim in those law suits that was advanced to seek to argue that John McCain was not a natural born citizen within the meaning of Article II's use of that phrase as a prerequisite to be able to be eligible to the presidency. I confess to reading many filings that claimed that the Great Pretender now in the Oval Office was not a natural born citizen within the meaning intended by the Frames in using the phrase in Article II, but I do not recall cases about McCain. Do you have any citations for such cases?
Further still, I don't see any legal authority that would establish that Senator Cruz would come within that definition that is set out in any actual SCOTUS decision. Why do you think that he would be found to meet the requirement? I do not know how you derive that there are "more legal scholars" that think that. Upon examination, the opinions of such scholars do not seem to have a sound basis.
I don't know. I'm not a birther or a non-birther and just ran across that one yesterday. This subject hasn't been on my radar, even with obama, so if you start asking complicated questions, my eyes will glaze over.
Further, what was the claim in those law suits that was advanced to seek to argue that John McCain was not a natural born citizen within the meaning of Article II's use of that phrase as a prerequisite to be able to be eligible to the presidency. I confess to reading many filings that claimed that the Great Pretender now in the Oval Office was not a natural born citizen within the meaning intended by the Frames in using the phrase in Article II, but I do not recall cases about McCain. Do you have any citations for such cases?
I don't know. And No.
Further still, I don't see any legal authority that would establish that Senator Cruz would come within that definition that is set out in any actual SCOTUS decision. Why do you think that he would be found to meet the requirement? I do not know how you derive that there are "more legal scholars" that think that. Upon examination, the opinions of such scholars do not seem to have a sound basis.
Eyes. Glazing. Over. :-)
Look, all i want to know is how everyone can be sure that the situation described in this Illinois lawsuit will not and CANNOT happen. We're dealing with democrats who already tried to hijack the 2000 election and may have been successful if those FL FReepers hadn't started banging on the door, insisting the democrats count the hanging chads in the open instead of hiding behind a closed door.
And even worse, we're dealing with Rinse Pre-whatever, who already wouldn't say that Cruz was eligible. And 49 of Ted's Senator-colleagues who apparently don't like him enough to endorse him. And all the corrupt RINOs in the House and media who would love to have Yeb as their president. So, someone tell me a concrete reason why you KNOW this scenario cannot happen. Because the only solution I see is to make sure Trump beats him and this scene-from-hell doesn't have a chance to develop. From the article:
"I am terrified that if we don't get this cleared up right now, if Ted Cruz does become the nominee, the Democrats will cherry-pick which court or election board they will petition to have him declared to be ineligible in September or October," Joyce continued.Again, it's important you understand that I'm not approaching this from a standpoint of "Is he eligible or not?" What people don't seem to understand is...What WE think just doesn't matter."The result could be that the Democrats may chalk up a string of three or four or five victories [in their election board petitions] in a row, potentially forcing Cruz to resign the nomination (if for no other reason than that fund raising would quickly dry up)," Joyce explained.
"Then Mr. [Karl] Rove and company would hand-pick his replacement as the nominee," he concluded.
Joyce argued that in his nightmare scenario, should Cruz be forced to withdraw as the GOP presidential nominee, the party's vice presidential nominee would not automatically become the presidential nominee.
Under the circumstances of a nominee withdrawing, he said, GOP party bosses could make a replacement choice that Joyce would find objectionable, including the possibility of nominating Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, Sen. Marco Rubio, Gov. Chris Christie or Rep. Paul Ryan, all of whom Joyce named as likely Cruz replacements in this scenario.
ALL that matters is the legal battle that will play out if Cruz were to win the primary. That's it. Because is there really anyone here who thinks the democrats would not file lawsuits?
And if y'all agree with me that they WILL, why am I the only one around here who is placing the responsibility for this in Ted Cruz's lap? HE is accountable for his campaign issues, not me, or you, or Donald Trump, or liberal lawyers. Just him. He's the only one who had the ability to solve his own birth status discrepancies.